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October 18, 2007
Sure, But It's The Rural Part of K Street
I knew Hillary Clinton was insistent that "lobbyists were real people, too," but I didn't realize she meant they were real rural people, too:
So later this month, according to THIS INVITATION, the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, is holding a "Rural Americans for Hillary" lunch and campaign briefing at the end of this month….
..but she's holding it in Washington, DC….
…at a lobbying firm…
… and specifically, though it's not mentioned in the invitation, at the lobbying firm Troutman Sanders Public Affairs…
…which just so happens to lobby for the controversial multinational agri-biotech Monsanto...A company that the website "Ethical Investing" labels "the world's most unethical and harmful investment."
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Holding an agri-summit in the plush halls of the lobbyists for Monsanto doesn't sound like the kind of "rural Americans" a presidential candidate would necessarily want to be photographed with.
It's real testament to Hillary's strength in the field, and the utter lack of traction the candidates have gotten attacking her ties to lobbyists, that she's not even feeling compelled to be careful about this sort of thing.
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Yeah, I mean, it's a fair point to say that she's holding it at a lobbying firm, but the constant attempts to play "six degrees of separation" by pointing out that the lobbying firm ALSO represents such-and-such evildoer get a little old. Perhaps one of the reasons people shrug it off is that they're just not that impressed by these connect-the-dots sort of arguments.
Posted by: Steve | Oct 18, 2007 12:09:11 PM
Now now, Ezra, Monsanto's headquarters is in St. Louis. Which is in Missouri. Which, clearly MUST be rural because it's in that big mushy mass of Midwestern bits that are called "fly-over country". I mean, do you expect rural to mean rural? Like, where there are no skyscrapers? Not even a small one? I think you're just asking too much.
Anyway, Clinton is being supported by Big Business. Surprise! I certainly didn't see that coming. Oh, wait, yes I did. Maybe "low information" voters would be surprised by this revelation, but I doubt it. Clinton wasn't exactly a raving anti-Big Business President, and if the "low information" folks are basing their opinion of Clinton II on Clinton I, this should come as no surprise.
Posted by: NonyNony | Oct 18, 2007 12:33:06 PM
Steve: These connect the dots connections are real. I'm not "impressed" by them, but the choice of meeting location certainly demonstrates what kind of agriculture and what kind of rural Hillary is interested in.
Posted by: Brian | Oct 18, 2007 12:56:54 PM
Nonynony, Most low-info voters understand absolutely none of the Clinton I's policy's. They don't even know what they were. They know that things were better for them when he was President, and that the future looked better for their children. They assume Clinton I's policies are what did that (they aren't), and they assume Clinton II's policies will be the same. The Clinton's are well known people, but the general public knows relatively little about their policies. We aren't going to have another Tech-revolution, and there are no more two-income tricks to be performed. However, Americans don't know that and nobody is telling them.
Posted by: soullite | Oct 18, 2007 1:07:03 PM
I'm not "impressed" by them, but the choice of meeting location certainly demonstrates what kind of agriculture and what kind of rural Hillary is interested in.
Why? You're acting like the meeting is being held at Monsanto's corporate headquarters. I'm sure this lobbying firm has hundreds and hundreds of clients; the only reason we know they're "Monsanto's lobbying firm" is that someone chose to frame them that way.
I don't believe there is any candidate out there who isn't within six degrees of separation from some horribly evil corporation. This is nothing but a game of "gotcha," and I suspect that's why these attacks simply don't resonate with voters. They hear this kind of stuff all the time and they intuitively sense that you can play this game all day if you really want to.
Posted by: Steve | Oct 18, 2007 1:22:53 PM
First off, even when pointing fingers, no one really hears. Especially on this stuff where the only of hope of getting people to hear about it is through commercials. The media isn't going to really harp on this. Their own lobbying must be protected so anything that points out the unreasonable power of lobbies is going to be mostly taboo.
Posted by: Ricky | Oct 18, 2007 2:46:59 PM
Hillary's prowar vote and corporate-kissing won't hurt her until the race comes down to her and one other candidate, be it Edwards or Obama. Right now there's too much noise and too little interest for the differences to get through, but when the field is narrowed to two candidates who are promoting themselves and dumping on the other--that's when Hillary's corporate centrism will hurt her.
Posted by: david mizner | Oct 18, 2007 3:06:20 PM
"It's real testament to Hillary's strength in the field..."
It's a real testament to Mark Penn's hubris that he thinks he can repeatedly ignore Democratic primary voters and still win the nomination based solely on the Clinton brand name.
If someone can draw blood on Hillary in January, she's going to bleed like a hemophiliac.
Posted by: Petey | Oct 18, 2007 5:24:43 PM
It's real testament to Hillary's strength in the field, and the utter lack of traction the candidates have gotten attacking her ties to lobbyists, that she's not even feeling compelled to be careful about this sort of thing.
I don't think voters are really paying attention yet, and I think there's a decent chance that this sort of thing will help define a new narrative about HRC when they do start paying attention.
Posted by: Tyrone Slothrop | Oct 18, 2007 5:31:23 PM
This only relates tangently. One of the principles of Troutman Sanders is Carl Sanders, governor of Georgia from 1963 to 1967. (As far as governors go, our state has had worse, but that's a different topic). In 1970, Sanders ran again, and he was defeated by a real farmer who raised peanuts in south Georgia, named Jimmy Carter. Carter dubbed Sanders "Cufflinks Carl" for his urban ways. This is the firm hosting the rural American's summit for Clinton.
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