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October 18, 2007

Bridging the Gaps

I'm off to the Bridging the Gaps conference, where I'm speaking on a panel about state and federal solutions to the health care crisis. For those interested, here are my opening remarks:

I’m here, I think, to be the Grinch. We’ve got all these great universal bills passing at the state level, and I’m here to tell you that, well, they are pretty great, but they’re not going to work. It didn’t work in Washington State, when they tried it, and the insurers first jacked up the premiums, and then moved out of the state in order to kill the model. It didn’t work in Hawaii, which saw an economic downturn move more people onto their subsidies exactly as the state’s revenues dropped. It didn’t work in Tennessee, where the Democratic governor, Phil Bredesen, upon killing off Tenncare and leaving 300,000 people uninsured, told his state that, "I say to you with a clear heart that I've tried everything. There is no big lump of federal money that will make the problem go away." Similar plans failed in Oregon, in Massachusetts, and many other states.

The plans fall for a few small reasons, and one big one. The big one is that states don’t have the fiscal stability to run universal health care. 49 of 50 states cant deficit spend. That means that when the state goes into recession and more people need subsidies and the revenues to give them don’t exist the state can’t borrow the money. So they dismantle the program. It’s happened time and time again -- in some states, like Oregon, more than once.

Moreover, you don’t really want this being a state-run solution. As a stopgap, increasing coverage through state plans is worthwhile, but health care reform is more than access – it’s actual reform to bring down costs, which are, at the end of the day, the biggest problem in the system. And the states don’t have the regulatory authority, the money, or, save in a few cases, the size to do that. I simply don’t trust them to fundamentally reform the system.

Now, folks make a good point: Health care reform has failed at the federal level time and again. The filibuster knocks it out. You’ll never pass it. States are the only hope. To that I’d say two things: One, if you think these red states will never embrace health reform, then they’re not going to do it on the state level, either, and I’m not comfortable with a solution that means Texas and Arkansas and North Carolina are left out. So that’s point one. Point two is that I think you can have federal reform. More than that, you will. It’s true that federal efforts have failed before. But look closer.

Truman failed in the 40’s with a heavily Republican Congress. Nixon failed in the 70s – but he failed because congressional Democrats didn’t want to hand him a victory, and rejected his, by our standards, very liberal, very comprehensive proposal in favor of something much closer to single payer. In retrospect, that was a huge mistake, but reform could have passed. And as for 1994, well, I don’t need to tell folks in this room how poorly that process was run. Maybe nothing could have passed, even with a saner, smarter, process. But change a few variables here and there – leave Lloyd Bentsen on the Finance Committee, tackle health care before NAFTA, take an earlier compromise -- and maybe it all turns out different.

More to the point, with every passing year, the pressure for reform grows stronger, not weaker. We have more uninsured, more struggling small businesses, more flagging mega-businesses, more determined unions, more coming cost crunches, more public unrest, more anxiety, more necessity. You can look at the cost projections for Medicare – which are really projections for American health care, as the private system’s spending growth looks as bad or worse – and you can tell right there that we’ll need reform, if only to save the country’s finances.

Moreover, much has changed politically. The Democratic Party is no longer dominated by Dixiecrats in Congress. It’s more parliamentary, more ideological. We have progressive coalitions with a breadth and strength that we never imagined in 1994 – during the S-CHIP fight, a coalition formed that included – deep breath here -- the AFL-CIO, AFSCME, SEIU, MoveOn.org, Americans United for Change, USAction, and TrueMajority. That didn’t exist in 1994. Nor did the blogs, or Media Matters, or the Center for American Progress. So yeah, we’ll need to be better this time, with a smarter, more aggressive political strategy, one that’s willing to bring enormous pressure to bear on any and every congress member who balks. But I think it can be done. And once it’s done, I think it’ll work, which I can’t say for the state reforms.

You know, whenever you talk about the state reforms, you always hear the old Brandeis quote about the “laboratories of democracy.” But there’s another Brandeis saying that I think is more applicable: “If we would guide by the light of reason,” he said, “we must let our minds be bold.” And that’s what I’m asking: Be bold. Because nothing else will, in the long term, work.

Thanks.

October 18, 2007 in Health Care | Permalink

Comments

congratulations, ezra...
you make a difference.

Posted by: jacqueline | Oct 18, 2007 1:04:00 PM

I think I probably agree with you on substance. I'm just here to help you out with a little rhetoric.

That last full sentence is pretty dreadful. "Because nothing else will, in the long term, work." ICK. First of all, you want to end with a call to arms, not a depressing note about nothing working. Second, even if you have to end with that idea, for God's sake don't break it up like that, with a one-word verb coming after the modifying phrase. "Because nothing else will work, in the long term" is 1000 percent better.

If you're writing stuff to be read out loud, then read it out loud and listen to it. Nobody talks like that....

OK all done criticizing. Nice job otherwise.

Posted by: Kent | Oct 18, 2007 1:11:42 PM

“If we would guide by the light of reason,” he said, “we must let our minds be bold.” And that’s what I’m asking: Be bold.

Except you aren't really advocating "bold" as you said last week, you are advocating "sequentialism."

Its not clear that a state-driven solution, in the short term, wouldn't lead to a better long-term solution than the Dem big-three approach. Your support of the Dem big-three plans is really support for a different type of sequentialism than those that advocate pushing reform via states.

Posted by: wisewon | Oct 18, 2007 1:16:50 PM

You know, this is a good argument against State incremental solutions - even on a massive scale - that cut in the insurance companies when it comes to core care.

But a state run single payer would not run into the problem. If you are substituting taxes for insurance and covering everybody then you have a large enough constituency to keep them funded even during recessions.

Posted by: Gar Lipow | Oct 18, 2007 1:23:31 PM

Mr Klein,

When you return, I would love to read your reactions to the attempt at S-CHIP compromise forwarded by the Heritage Foundation.

Else, if you have already commented upon it, a link to that commentary.

thank you,
Matthew Dallman

Posted by: MD | Oct 18, 2007 2:08:11 PM

49 of 50 states cant deficit spend.

Which state is the exception?

Posted by: Brock | Oct 18, 2007 2:18:06 PM

I know, Ezra, that you think that deficit speding is the issue that kills state-level reforms. I think it's trivial, while agreeing with you that state-level reforms will not fix the problem.

What kills state-level returns is the 5/95 issue (it's much more skewed than 80/20). For the small number of people with expensive chronic ailments, it's worth moving to a state with a state-level plan--and in a state the size of Tennessee, it only takes a few thousand extra expensive patients to really change the affordability.

Posted by: SamChevre | Oct 18, 2007 2:27:52 PM

This probably won't fit in your presentation, Ezra, but please remember that portability will inevitably be an issue as well (it already is, both in public and private coverage); particularly when it comes to chronic or serious illnesses, having a certain amount of mobility can be very important. I've discussed before (so skip if you want) how frustrating it was to have a parent with cancer in another state, on Medicaid, and for most of the relatives in that area to also have crappy jobs that gave them little flexibility (we were lucky that one uncle got laid off soon after her diagnosis, which is ironic). We wanted to bring her to our area, where two of her three kids had white-collar jobs & the ability to adjust schedules easily, not to mention a top research university hospital... but there was no way change her residency & enroll her in TennCare after the diagnosis. So for nine months we drove 700 miles round trip every second or third weekend to clean, make a list of what she needed, try to see the oncologist if a Monday or Friday appointment could be scheduled, and harangue other family members to keep up with her meds and other needs. It sucked in every possible way, and there are still some carefully concealed hard feelings among the extended family. It's far from the most traumatic thing that could have happened wrt her illness, but the logistics alone lowered the quality of life for everyone involved, not just the patient.

And of course in the south, whatever the states did produce would certainly suck, and probably be designed to increase class and racial discrepancies in access & quality of care, because that's just the way things tend to happen in this region; there are too many voters whose entire political worldview is determined by whether they think someone unworthy is getting away with something.

Anyway, FWIW... these aren't really anecdotes that illuminate a particular policy so much as considerations of how state borders can already be too much of a prison when it comes to healthcare.

Posted by: latts | Oct 18, 2007 2:33:16 PM

Matthew, thanks for the reference to the Heritage Foundation article. I can't speak for Ezra, but I did have some thoughts about the proposal. The children over 200% of poverty would not be helped much by the tax breaks. My first problem is that their proposal would do nothing for kids with pre-existing conditions. They aren't going to get insurance at a reasonable rate - if at all. The second concern I have is that $100 dollars a month won't buy much insurance even for healthy kids. Lastly, the "federalizing" suggestions are smoke and mirrors suggesting that the states are going to take on new obligations they can't afford. I'm not impressed.

Posted by: Marv Toler | Oct 18, 2007 2:35:40 PM

Second, even if you have to end with that idea, for God's sake don't break it up like that, with a one-word verb coming after the modifying phrase. "Because nothing else will work, in the long term" is 1000 percent better.

And 'Because, in the long term, nothing else will work' is better still. Ezra's point is that it's 'federal or [states going] bust', and it's one that can't be sugar-coated.

I'm inclined to side with SamChevre, because state implementations have the potential to encourage healthcare arbitrage. A state can offer tax sweetener deals to attract businesses, and a healthcare plan can be a good incentive to attract the healthy to move somewhere 'just in case', but that can be outweighed by a relatively small number of chronic cases.

Posted by: pseudonymous in nc | Oct 18, 2007 2:43:06 PM

I couple of other arguments on why a series of state solutions won't work - beyond the portability disgrace that latts discusses above:

- the health insurers will (organize to, surreptitiously and) conduct wars playing off one state versus another, leading to the least common denominator effect led by the most conservative states.

- businesses will play off one state over another.

- state legislatures are much easier to bribe influence for far less money on lobbying and advertising.

Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Oct 18, 2007 2:43:18 PM

I agree with you on the larger point, but please, please, don't say this:

health care reform is more than access – it’s actual reform to bring down costs, which are, at the end of the day, the biggest problem in the system.

That's crazy. The biggest problem is that millions of people who need health care either can't get it or can only get it at ruinous financial cost. This is morally wrong, and we need radical reform to make it so that everyone has health care that they can afford.

Lowering costs is a benefit of this program, probably, but health care for all is a moral issue first and foremost. Calculating the costs has to be secondary.

Posted by: DivGuy | Oct 18, 2007 3:44:57 PM

Well-thought out post Ezra.

Posted by: Korha | Oct 18, 2007 4:07:39 PM

The biggest problem is that millions of people who need health care either can't get it or can only get it at ruinous financial cost.

Well, I think then that it's possible to take your statement and say that the biggest problem is cost. Certainly we'd have fewer uninsured and fewer people avoiding needed medical care if we solved the cost problem.

Posted by: Stephen | Oct 18, 2007 4:09:39 PM

I absorbed this wise bit of Ezra Klein dogma long ago.

Posted by: Neil the Ethical Werewolf | Oct 18, 2007 4:17:48 PM

if you think these red states will never embrace health reform, then they’re not going to do it on the state level, either, and I’m not comfortable with a solution that means Texas and Arkansas and North Carolina are left out.

This seems like a very weak point. If it really were possible for states to guarantee health care, would you really want them not to just because Texas, Arkansas etc. won't go along for the ride?

Posted by: Jason C. | Oct 18, 2007 4:37:24 PM

Re: Jason C. 4:37p: Probably a moot point if even Massachusetts (wealthy, liberal) can't find a way to do it.

Posted by: alkali | Oct 18, 2007 4:43:11 PM

There's a certain "yeah, this time will be different" approach to your remarks that's belied by your examples.... I'm not deeply pessimistc, by nature, but we have shown time and again how hard large scale changes to the healthcare systems in this country are, and not really just in the examples you cite - even the victories, like Medicare and the post-passage tinkering that's gone on over the years, bear some telling evidence of what's possible and what's not, even when the stars appear to align. Which is to say, be careful what you wish for - too much pressure on Congress and on the White House to "do something" can wreak more damage, even and especially when it's well-intentioned. Remember, Medicare Part D comes from years of pressure that someone had to "do something" about prescription drug costs for the elderly. And look what we got.

I think the reason you can't have one state healthcare reform is why you can't have a lot of state level programs in lieu of federal solutions: these things have to apply to all of us. It will be no use to have one state where these things succeed (as if, as you point out, the hurdles could be overcome) any more than watching state after state fail. As well, with Medicare, Medicaid, the Veteran's system and the Federal Employee system, we've already, in many respects, made a decision about doing this at the federal level. What we shouldn't lose sight of, I think, is that ordinary people don't necessarily appreciate the macro thinking - they need to understand what will work in their community, for the people they know, for their family. No plan is going to succeed, at any level, if it can't be seen as benefiting most people. That, I think, is a big part of why previous state level plans have failed to the point of dismantling - economic setbacks might call for retrenchment; but flat out ending programs has to do with people not believing in the whole idea, and that has to do with not seeing what's in it for them.

I hope your panel goes well. I agree that your perspective on this will be extremely helpful. But I think the thing to keep in mind is that may need to continue to evolve, too.

Posted by: weboy | Oct 18, 2007 4:48:41 PM

Well, I think then that it's possible to take your statement and say that the biggest problem is cost. Certainly we'd have fewer uninsured and fewer people avoiding needed medical care if we solved the cost problem.

hmm. Maybe that's what Ezra meant, but I think it's a bad way to phrase it.

When I hear "the problem is costs", I think of the complaints about the overall cost of health insurance as a portion of GDP, I think about macroeconomic points.

Put it this way. Say health care currently costs X dollars per person. I don't particularly care if universal health care also costs X dollars per person. When I hear someone say that "cost" is the issue, I tend to assume they're talking about reducing the cost per person, as a macroeconomic measure.

What matters is the moral issue - people need to have affordable health care.

Posted by: DivGuy | Oct 18, 2007 5:41:34 PM

Given that healthcare insurance companies have P&O's that are ranging up to six times government run programs the only solution is to take the profit out.

Strangely, this is just what they do in every other country but ours.

Posted by: A.Citizen | Oct 18, 2007 7:50:06 PM

In 2003, the U.S. spent $5,711 per person on health care. That same year, Canada spent $2,998 and the United Kingdom spent $2,317. And according to the Alliance for Health Reform, $.45 out of every dollar in health care spending comes from the government (primarily the federal government). That works out to $2,570 per person. Here's my plan. I propose we appoint Ezra National Health Care Czar and grant him full discretion over those health care dollars spent by the government. He can remake the system however he likes. For that kind of money, we might not be up to Canadian standards, but we should at least be able to bring NHS quality and excellence state side. No need for additional taxes/spending. Remember, we'll get the full benefit of those fabulous cost savings Ezra promised.

Posted by: Alejandro Gonzalez (CMC '06) | Oct 18, 2007 8:17:12 PM

I'm with Alejandro. Let the federal government spend the money it now SPENDS on health care (about 1/3 of healthcare spending) and go from there. If everyoen is happy enough, the next step is to stop exempting from taxation private health insurance via employers, and let the government spend that money too.

Posted by: SamChevre | Oct 19, 2007 11:25:02 AM

On C-SPAN the other day, Howard Dean off-the-cuff suggested lowering the Medicare age to 55 and raising the S-CHIP age to 30.

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