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September 20, 2007

Fearing For Israel

Ron Rosenbaum's essay on the possibility of a "Second Holocaust" is a profoundly weird piece of work. He loathes Walt and Mearsheimer, of course, and accomplishes the remarkable feat of arguing against Leon Wieseltier from the Right, as he apparently considers Wieseltier unacceptably leftwing on Israel/Palestine issues.

But the bulk of the essay is dedicated to exploring the possibility and dangers of what Rosenbaum calls "the Second Holocaust." "I am not the only one who has written about the potential for a second Holocaust," he says. "It has gone from a marginalized to a virtually mainstream concern among those in touch with the grim reality of the situation. The Israeli historian Benny Morris...recently published an essay in the Jerusalem Post titled "The Second Holocaust Will Be Different." ("Different" in that it will take six seconds or six minutes for a bomb or bombs detonated in Tel Aviv to kill millions of Jews, while it took Hitler six years to kill that many.)"

That's scary stuff, to be sure. Indeed, I agree that a bomb in Tel Aviv is the eminent contemporary threat to worldwide Jewry. But Rosenbaum never says what should be done here. Israel, after all, already has the maximal in retaliatory weaponry: Nuclear capabilities. They already have the protection of America and our unbelievably precise and powerful atomic arsenal. They're building a wall. If that's not security enough, if you still believe that a terrorist will sneak in with a suitcase of uranium and a detonating device, then there's really no answer save to throw up your hands on the Israel thing, conclude that concentrating Jews in a small sliver of land surrounded by hostile nations wasn't a good idea, and begin another diaspora. Or you could possibly try and ratchet down anti-Israeli sentiment in the region, dismantling the settlements, creating a viable and contiguous Arab state, really working to end the root causes of the hatred that would underlie such an attack (my preferred solution).

But Rosenbaum suggests neither of these. Indeed, he doesn't suggest much of anything at all, but given his opinions on Walt and Mearsheimer (and thus American foreign policy), appears to believe we should keep antagonizing the Arab (and Persian) world, keeping them disarmed and semi-colonialized. This will...what? It won't keep terrorists from a nuclear device, nor end the longing for Israel's destruction. It's the worst of all worlds. Yet it's Rosenbaum's apparent conclusion: The greatest danger to global Jewry is an attack on the concentrated Jewish population in Israel that's motivated by Arab hatred for the state, its policies, and its people. In defense, we will continue to make them hate us, continue to live in Israel, and continue to pursue the offending policies.

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That's what conservative foreign policy "analysis" has degenerated into. (1) Focus on how evil your enemies are. (2) The end.

That's not much of an exaggeration-- look at Irving Kristol's explanation of what neoconservatism is all about. He articulates 4 principles in foreign policy:

(1) "patriotism is a natural and healthy sentiment";
(2) "world government is a terrible idea";
(3) "statesmen should, above all, have the ability to distinguish friends from enemies," especially given that some smart people didn't realize that the USSR was bad;
(4) the US has "ideological interests," so it should defend Israel because it's a democracy.

And that's it. We're good, enemies are bad, therefore attack.

It's not conservatism, it's not rational or strategic, and it's the mentality that's been running our darn country the last 6 years.

Posted by: Elvis Elvisberg | Sep 20, 2007 11:27:35 AM

But Rosenbaum never says what should be done here.

We could always kill all the people who now or might at some point in the future harbor ill-will towards Israel. Or maybe just lop off their hands: handless enemies are neutered enemies. Anyway, just a thought.

Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Sep 20, 2007 11:53:45 AM

I would be concerned about a "Second Holocaust" but not the one Ron Rosenbaum seems to address. Just how difficult would it be for real anti-Semites to bull their way to the head of the pack when the trajectory of current American policy results in a massive decline in living standard because of the dollar's crash and rampant inflation? The two professors won't even register on that Richter scale of Holocaust studies. Worse, shrill defenses of Israeli policies and practices will be fully available for such ardent anti-Semites to incorporate in their ads and presentations. Millions of citizens won't care whether their logic is just slightly off when they can't find work and can't feed their families and prospects look even grimmer. Too many of the shrill Israeli defenders will likely try to redirect the ire against the American Muslim community (undoubtedly because they won't denounce their Muslim brethren in the Middle East who are withholding the oil we need), but what does that make them? The Second Holocaust won't be come in the form of a nuclear flash in the Middle East but in the form of a laser printer spitting out a list of the folks who need to be rounded up deep in the bowels of the Department of Homeland Security in Washington.

Posted by: PrahaPartizan | Sep 20, 2007 11:57:48 AM

Reminds me of the metaphor for fascism of the ant-colonies in T.B. White's the Book of Merlin in the Once and Future King, where the ant colony leaders tell the ant colony that because they are Numerous and Starving, they must become more Numerous and Starving in order to create more cannon fodder for the the war against the next ant colony...

Posted by: diana | Sep 20, 2007 12:52:23 PM

When I argue as I often do that Israel renders otherwise reasonable people batshit, I use Rosenbaum as exhibit A.

Posted by: david mizner | Sep 20, 2007 1:22:07 PM

Here, here, to David's observation, with this reservation: liberal realists, not so much. Or progressives who see reasonable room for both Isreal and the Palestinians to achieve a livable compromise but see the right-extremists prevail time after time.

When I see Bibi as the most popular pol in Israel, I wonder what can the Israeli people see as a lasting way to co-existence as an alternative to shipping (via boxcar trains, of course) all the Arabs west of the Jordan into western Iraq to experience the al Anbar awakening.

Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Sep 20, 2007 1:41:23 PM

I usually like Rosenbaum but I didn't get this. Is he implying that because of Holocaust concern, it's proper for the US to be lashed to AIPAC? Is he agreeing with the thrust (but not the conclusion) of the book he's condemning?

Posted by: sparky | Sep 20, 2007 2:38:38 PM

Rosenbaum is a wonderful writer (I reread Travels with Doctor Death regularly just to savor it), but his political compass has been severely out of whack for years, since at least the Hitchens-stroking piece in 2002 about how the Dirty Fucking Hippies were wrong on Iraq because Bush wasn't as bad as Kim Jong Il.

Posted by: snarkout | Sep 20, 2007 3:03:36 PM

It was obvious, when Rosenbaum went crazy on his blog on the Pyjamas site, that Slate was soon going to enfold him in their loving arms. Slate is the web mag that never met a loony hawk they didn't hire. I am sorta surprised they haven't nailed down Richard Perle for a column, yet. He and Kaus could just josh up a storm!

However, the Rosenbaums are not as important as the Clintons. And, alas, yesterday we saw Clinton do the ritualistic genuflection to the ultra-hawk side by denouncing Ahmedinajad's proposed visit to ground zero to lay flowers on the site. How insane this is. It takes one of the widows of a 9/11 victim, writing on the Huffington Post, to point to the obvious: this is a good thing rather than a bad thing. If we aren't going to overthrow the regime in Iran - and the Dem candidates, perhaps for fear of alienating their base and the majority of American voters, haven't signed on to the Rosenbaum-Weekly Standard platform - then obviously we should talk with them. Nixon knew enough to welcome pingpong players from Mao's china - and Mao was a mass murderer almost beyond comprehension - because he recognized that peace comes from diplomacy (or at least Dick sober did; Dick crazy bombed Haiphong). When the Dem leadership is so wacko that it doesn't recognize diplomatic opportunity when it hits them in the face, why vote for them at all?

Posted by: roger | Sep 20, 2007 3:08:23 PM

Isn't one answer to the danger inherent in concentrated populations of Jews to unconcentrate them?

If the 20th Century response to the threat to worldwide Jewry was to give Jews their own state, isn't it possible that the 21st Century response to the threat of Jews concentrated in Israel is to convince them to re-enter the safety of the diaspora?

Posted by: Torque | Sep 20, 2007 3:29:15 PM

"He loathes Walt and Mearsheimer, of course"

'In fairness, I should say that when I called the error to the attention of the publishers (Farrar, Straus and Giroux) and editors of the book, they brought it to the attention of the authors, who responded by examining the evidence, swiftly acknowledging my "legitimate concerns," and agreeing to correct the error in all future printings of the book.'

Posted by: rilkefan | Sep 20, 2007 4:03:33 PM

Rilkefan, what exactly is your point with the above citation?

Posted by: WB Reeves | Sep 20, 2007 5:46:08 PM

Umm, Rosenberg says there is a serious error in W/M's work - "in the initial edition of The Israel Lobby, Mearsheimer and Walt distort my quote, truncating it and using a misleading context to make it seem as though I believe there is about to be a second Holocaust in America!" - but that they responded admirably when informed, then he goes on to discuss the error. Not the impression one gets reading Ezra's post.

Posted by: rilkefan | Sep 20, 2007 6:17:55 PM

...but that they responded admirably when informed, then he goes on to discuss the error. Not the impression one gets reading Ezra's post.

Uh, Rilkefan where does Rosenberg characterize their actions as "admirable"? That's really your characterization isn't it? What I see is a writer making a point of how fair he is being while insulating himself from potential criticism for non-disclosure.

What Rosenberg actual said:

While it doesn't undo the damage of their initial inattentiveness, preserved in the first printing, and it doesn't obviate the many disagreements I still have with the authors, I must say that correcting the error does reflect an ethos of responsibility in scholars and publishers that is all too rare, I've found.

You say this equates with Rosenberg having found Walt and Mearsheimer "admirable". I say it's a textbook example of "damning with faint praise". This perception is butressed by the paragraphs following.

Before getting deeper into my personal perspective on the controversy, let me summarize, for those unfamiliar with it, the thrust of The Israel Lobby.

Mearsheimer and Walt, professors at the University of Chicago and Harvard, respectively, first laid out their thesis in a 2006 essay in the London Review of Books: They accused the "Israel lobby" of having a "stranglehold" on the U.S. Congress, much to the detriment of our foreign policy.

In their just-published book, as Ira Stoll points out in the New York Sun, Mearsheimer and Walt have dropped the word stranglehold. (One wonders why. Is it because they felt it was inaccurate or because it suggested, too obviously, a sinister Protocols of Zion-like mentality?)

But if they've dropped the vampiric word, they haven't dropped the vampiric implication. The new book suggests that the lobby for the Jewish state—unlike the lobby for, say, ethanol—is not just another successful interest group but somehow illegitimate because of its success, and that its influence on American policy has become so powerful and malign that no one dares challenge it (except, well, them, and a good number of Jews).

Leaving aside the obvious incongruity that vampires don't kill by strangulation but by draining their victim's blood, it's clear that Rosenberg is straining to connect W&M arguments to the classic tropes of anti-Semitic propaganda.

It's worth noting that he does so after having opened his essay with citations to sources that associate W&M's argument with David Duke and label them as Anti-Semitic, while piously proclaiming that he would not follow that line of attack. A commitment that he managed to honor for all of six short paragraphs.

Posted by: WB Reeves | Sep 20, 2007 7:16:31 PM

"it's clear that Rosenberg is straining to connect W&M arguments to the classic tropes of anti-Semitic propaganda"

Well, he's not "straining", far as I can see, and you seem to confusedly believe that saying "X did x admirably" is equivalent to saying "X is admirable" - but your entire comment is beside the point, that being Ezra's misleading [not to mention mindreading] description of the article.

Posted by: rilkefan | Sep 20, 2007 7:39:01 PM

Who is Rosenberg?

Posted by: J | Sep 20, 2007 7:45:13 PM

Don't a lot of people think the ethanol lobby has a powerful and malign influence?

Posted by: William Burns | Sep 20, 2007 7:50:06 PM

Well, he's not "straining", far as I can see, and you seem to confusedly believe that saying "X did x admirably" is equivalent to saying "X is admirable" - but your entire comment is beside the point, that being Ezra's misleading [not to mention mindreading] description of the article.

Except, of course, that Rosenberg never used the word "admirable" in the first place. You projected that meaning into the text. Likewise, equating "stranglehold" with "vampiric" is an even more gross instance of projection. It requires no "mindreading", nor is it "misleading", to recognize that Rosenberg is distorting language in order to engage in the standard anti-Semite baiting. He simply lacks the integrity to admit that he is doing so.

Ezra's characterization of this as an expression of Rosenberg's "loathing" for W&M is far more well founded than your own spin on an out of context aside.

Posted by: WB Reeves | Sep 20, 2007 7:59:36 PM

Sorry, I mistyped Rosenbaum as Rosenberg. I stand corrected.

Posted by: WB Reeves | Sep 20, 2007 8:09:52 PM

There is a simple explanation for all of this: Mr. Rosenbaum was a Yale classmate of George W. Bush. Yes, I know the two never met, but hear me out. Sometime during the years 1964-68, a strange, inexplicable vapor descended upon New Haven, causing otherwise sensible persons to exhibit irrational delusions. Sometimes it took years for this to take effect; sometimes it was immediate. Dick Wolf escaped this---until recently, when he put on some dumb show that won an Emmy.

Posted by: Henderstock | Sep 20, 2007 10:26:43 PM

There is a simple explanation for all of this: Mr. Rosenbaum was a Yale classmate of George W. Bush. Yes, I know the two never met, but hear me out. Sometime during the years 1964-68, a strange, inexplicable vapor descended upon New Haven, causing otherwise sensible persons to exhibit irrational delusions. Sometimes it took years for this to take effect; sometimes it was immediate. Dick Wolf escaped this---until recently, when he put on some dumb show that won an Emmy.

Posted by: Henderstock | Sep 20, 2007 10:33:10 PM

The really sad thing about evil monsters like Rosenbaum is that, by both rejecting options which would eventually allow Israel to leave in peace with its neighbors, by actively undermining such options, and by, in effect, CREATING a situation where the only choices are the destruction of Israel or the destruction of the entire Arab world (because let's be honest, that's where his insane thinking leads), is that, when forced to choose, most people are (understandably, and correctly from a moral perspective), going to stop supporting the existance of the state of Israel.

Really in the long run, these people are the worst enemies that Israel has.

Posted by: LarryM | Sep 21, 2007 10:05:11 AM

So, I take it that no one cares that Walt & Mearshimer casually cut and pasted Rosenbaum's words to imply a position he never took? It appears that the position of young progressives is that the truthiness of a book (or more importantly, the degree to which it pisses off Marty Peretz) trumps the accuracy of any claims it makes.

Posted by: mhp | Sep 21, 2007 12:40:52 PM

Here's the problem, Ezra. My generation, the baby boomers, is getting old. Jewish babyboomers like Rosenbaum turn into Ed Koch overnight. It's a scary phenomenon. One day you are a thinking, rational Jewish American who feels utterly at home in the country we were born in (not to mention our parents), and the next thing you know you wake up talking like Jackie Mason and publicly worrying about Second Holocausts. Rosenbaum's piece is evidence of senescence. But it is also so offensive. Can you imagine any Jew living in Germany or Ukraine or Poland in 1940 who would find anything remotely scary about the Jewish condition today. One, we are safely at home in America, two, a Jewish country is the 4th strongest military power in the world (with 200 nukes to boot) and three anti-semitism is a thoroughly discredited concept. My God, any Jew from 1940 (or the previous 1940 years) would look at Rosenbaum, Peretz, Dershowitz and the neocons and think they are just plain nuts. Which they are.
One caveat, I'm getting old too so if my next post makes me sound like your grandfather in Brooklyn, it's not my fault.

Posted by: MJ Rosenberg | Sep 21, 2007 3:24:37 PM

mhp,

No one cares because whether or not Rosenbaum was merely critical of Walt & Mershimer or whether he "loathes" him is a side issue at best. As are Walt & Mershimer as well, compared to the larger issue that Rosenbaum and his fellow travelers are bat shit crazy monsters who have a significant degree of influence on our foreign policy, who are trying to bring us one step closer to Armageddon, and who, ironically, are the biggest danger out there to the survival of Israel. Sometimes I even think that the Walt & Mereshimer have done us a disservice by getting into side issues, when the real issue isn't the religious identity or motivation of some of these people, but the fact that they are deeply evil monsters who, rather than being key drivers of our foreign policy, should be in locked wards where they are no danger to anyone.

And I'm sure as hell not just talking about the neo-cons; their fellow travelers include that sick fuck who inhabits the vice president's office and other "national greatness" conservatives. Honestly, if I thought that these perverted excuses for human beings were motivated by an emotion as genuine as love for the state of Israel, my opinion of them would actually be somewhat higher than it is. In stead they are apparently motivated primarily by love of death.

Posted by: LarryM | Sep 21, 2007 6:44:40 PM

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