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August 04, 2007

Health Care Descriptions

At the health care panel, Kathleen Stoll, from Families USA, says, "some of you may think of me as an incrementalist. I prefer to think of myself as a sneaky sequentialist." Cute. That said, her definition of an incremental step is a heavily regulated, universal plan that includes a public option. In other words, something like the Edwards plan. That may be a lot of things, but it's not incremental, and it's almost too big to be considered mere sequentialism. This is a crowd that's truly for single-payer, though, and so the center shifts left. It's heart-warming, in a way.

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I'm sure her plan would win the vote of the 1400 folks in Chicago for yKos. How about the vote of the 30,000 lobbyists in DC?

Or even the 250 or so Democrats in Congress?

Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Aug 4, 2007 12:58:17 PM

The -- only -- practical political way to go on universal health care is Medicare for everyone. This deprives Republican "The sky is falling" Chicken Littles of any ideological targets to exploit (which they are so Satanically good at exploiting) because everyone understands exactly what Medicare is.

Had Hillary gone this route instead of she and Magaziner hatching a giant insurance-industry experiment for the entire country at once we would now be talking about the history of Medicare for everyone. If you watch the progressive economists I think you will find them going this direction this time around.

Posted by: Denis Drew | Aug 4, 2007 1:11:22 PM

Think denis hits it- part of the strategy must be to keep the plan simple and easy to explain. Too complicated and people think bureacracy.

Posted by: akaison | Aug 4, 2007 4:12:08 PM

"The -- only -- practical political way to go on universal health care is Medicare for everyone."

Probably true poliltically. To that I'd add that we'd need a sequentialist to pull it off. The older people get, the worse they do under the current system as costs increase, and they are more likely to have medical problems that prevent them from buying affordable health care. Start with lowering the Medicare age, which would be more acceptable politically than immediately scrapping the current system.

Next add others. Get rid of the one year waiting period for the disabled. Perhaps extend the definition of disabled to people with chronic medical problems which prevent them from obtaining affordable care, even if working.

This may or may not ultimately lead to single payer. I see no problem if we still have groups of people who are adequately covered by private insurance as long as those who currently do not have adequate coverage have an affordable option.

Posted by: Ron Chusid | Aug 5, 2007 12:22:37 AM

The -- only -- practical political way to go on universal health care is Medicare for everyone.

If this means just enrolling everyone into Medicare, there's not a prayer it would become law. Among other things, it would decimate (rather literally) the insurance industry, and would be wide open to the "no way out" charge. Edwards' plan to offer a Medicare-type option for everyone is a good idea, as long as it's realistically priced.

Posted by: Sanpete | Aug 5, 2007 1:27:02 PM

Sanpete,
As I understand it, the concept as proposed by progressive economists is Medicare -- and the taxes to go with it -- for all who don't want to voluntarily cover themselves with something else. IOW, if you and your employer are satisfied with your current health arrangement you and your employer will be spared the extra payroll taxes.

The ability of Republicans to play endless dishonest head games with anything that people are not already fully familiar with should never be underestimated ("... for the children of this world are wiser than the children of the light.")

If you have a better idea for a health plan, please save it until we have Medicare available for all, first; then will be the productive time to offer improvements -- though I'm not sure what they might be; I thought Medicare had worked out their fee schedule pretty reasonably decades ago.

Posted by: Denis Drew | Aug 5, 2007 2:57:39 PM

Denis, what you describe is similar to what Edwards proposes, which I think is doable.

Posted by: Sanpete | Aug 5, 2007 3:28:46 PM

To find more on the health and the other family aspects click
http://google.com/coop/cse?cx=007002915817646528976%3Abi4ypvay0ow

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Posted by: judy | Oct 11, 2007 8:03:54 AM

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