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June 14, 2007
Let's Get Serious
After Baer's article attacking me, and progressives more generally, for being inattentive to and distracted from the threat posed by Iran, I began digging through some of the liberal hawk literature on the issue, and was struck by how cowardly and evasive most of it was. There is a near-allergy to forthrightly offering solutions. After the failure of the Iraq War led to so many hawks being embarrassed by their public statements, the pose of toughness and militarism has become completely unmoored from any statements actually advocating a policy path -- the better to retain the point-scoring upside of Iraq's pre-war conversation, without the humiliation of the post-war reckoning. Over at The American Prospect today, I have an article on this trend, and a challenge to these hawks to say what they think, not merely what they think about what others think. It begins:
"Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so," said John Kenneth Galbraith, "almost everyone gets busy on the proof."
Today's liberal hawks are engaged in a slightly subtler game. The Iraq war is an acknowledged catastrophe. The same group-think and bandwagon effects that once pushed them so irresistibly towards embracing the invasion is now similarly forceful in pulling them to abandon it. The question, for many, is how to finesse that flip without losing one's reputation for unparalleled foreign policy seriousness. The answer is Iran.
June 14, 2007 | Permalink
Comments
Baer's argument is silly. If Israel is the main issue, it strikes me that Israel is perfectly capable of taking out Iran's nuclear program itself. They did so with their attack on the Iraq reactor in Osirak in 1981.
Posted by: raj | Jun 14, 2007 9:46:09 AM
Check out any comment thread to the right of Noam Chomsky and you'll find we've learned nothing from Iraq. On and on they blather about how we must do something about the nuclear threat posed by Iran. These are the people who keep guns under their pillows and shoot their teenage kids sneaking in late from a date.
Apparently none of these morons have realized that those 700 American bases around the world are hostages to world opinion. Some world event that turned opinion 99.9% against the US could have some wide repercussions.
At one time Turkey had an empire-wide system of sheriffs who controlled all the local areas. These sheriffs became obnoxious and overbearing, and eventually, in about a week, most of them were killed in a spontaneous uprising that spread like the proverbial wildfire.
Sad to say, we seem to be unable to learn from history- ancient or modern.
Posted by: serial catowner | Jun 14, 2007 10:48:33 AM
Ezra, I'm just getting around to reading the Baer article, in combination with yours, and I think you might actually understate Baer's predilection for policy ambiguity. Not only is Baer not saying what we should do about Iran - he's not even saying what we should have done about Israel in 1967.
Given that Baer thinks the outline of the current mess was established with Israel's victory in 1967, can he possibly be saying that the victory was a tragedy that could have been prevented by U.S. intervention?
I guess not. But what is he advocating? Pre-emptive strikes on Jordan, Egypt and/or Syria?
Even with the benefit of 40 years of hindsight, he can't seem to come up with a policy prescription.
Posted by: politicalfootball | Jun 14, 2007 10:50:47 AM
I agreed with your article's overall point but I do have one question. I may have just not read carefully enough but your use of "we" seems unclear when you write about how you and others oppose war with Iran.
Are you simply referring to other liberals opposed to military action against Iran? Or are you referring to a specific ideological group or foreign policy perspective?
Posted by: Joseph | Jun 14, 2007 11:27:19 AM
Nice piece at TAP...
Sounds like Baer's peg fits the
AIPACer,
Lieberman,
WINEPer,
Ziocon,
Israel ...
..KKK (Kristol, Kagan, Krauthammer via Glenn G.)...
lobby
hole.
To me.
Posted by: has_te | Jun 14, 2007 11:57:32 AM
BTW, Ezra, our policy should be that the US doesn't attack Iran and that Israel doesn't attack Iran. We don't want either.
(We don't want Belgium attacking Iran either, but the Israelis seem more tempted).
Posted by: otto | Jun 14, 2007 1:40:39 PM
The point about vagueness is good. I see avoidance on all sides on Iraq, so it isn't surprising to see it in regard to Iran too.
I don't see what the part about seriousness is based on.
Posted by: Sanpete | Jun 14, 2007 3:15:56 PM
If we are "distracted" about the threat from Iran, it is only because we are trying to keep the people Baer is defending from pulling the trigger.
Posted by: Xanthippas | Jun 14, 2007 11:26:35 PM
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