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March 24, 2007

Obama, Tables, Health Care

Okay, this is really very funny. To say a bit more on the Nevada Health Care Forum, everyone basically made the points you'd expect, Obama signaled that he's moving in good directions, and Hillary Clinton suggested she would offer legislation for nationwide community rating, which would be welcome. But no real news was made. More generally, I sort of wonder why the health care debate wasn't moderated by some sort of aggressive health policy type. The virtue of such issue debates would be really pressing the candidates, this let them hang out in platitude-ville. To make this point more concrete, I would like to hereby announce my availability to moderate a Democratic presidential debate on health care.

MyDD, by the way, had a much more detailed play-by-play.

March 24, 2007 | Permalink

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I think it's because the campaign is so early that it's more of a hang out style this time.
I do think Obama's health care will be something similar to what he did here in Illinois. It covers 18 and under who don't have insurance. It's a well crafted and solid bill and it's been working out for us.
Having to work with a gop controlled state senate, it was great he at least got health care for kids.
Check out that one and it may hold clues to what his proposal will be for his campaign. He would use some if not alot from that.

Posted by: vwcat | Mar 24, 2007 8:15:06 PM

Dude, a Klein-moderated debate would be awesome. The candidates would hate it though.

Posted by: Nicholas Beaudrot | Mar 24, 2007 10:48:15 PM

Agree more details would have been welcome.

I addressed by blog post on this to conservatives by using a true, if somewhat tonge in cheek title to summarize the health care plans being promoted: Democrats Oppose Socialized Medicine

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=1288

Posted by: Ron Chusid | Mar 24, 2007 10:48:44 PM

I just don't get it. It has been demonstrated that in America, doctors are better, technology is better, procedures and capability are better (partially cuz we try to save a lot more people than in socialized med, therefore we have more practice i.e. infant mortality), no one in need is turned away, etc. and yet you clowns still insist on socialized med.

It is kind of like your insistance that socialism is better than capitalism even after seeing the failure of socialism over and over.

Building 18 at Walter Reed is an example of socialized med. If your wish comes true, healthcare in this country will go downhill fast.

Posted by: Captain Toke | Mar 24, 2007 11:28:59 PM

I just don't get it.

That is true. Glad you can see that now.

Posted by: Stephen | Mar 24, 2007 11:44:17 PM

"No one in need is turned away" = Everyone has a right to medical care, as long as they have the decency to wait until their health has deteriorated to the point that they end up in the emergency room.

Vwcat, covering everyone under 18 is hardly universal health care, so I hope you're wrong about Obama's plan. Among other things, I want someone to fix the insanity of tying health insurance to employment, so that people who get diagnosed with something big like cancer and then lose their jobs are sentenced to financial ruin and poor health care.

Posted by: KCinDC | Mar 25, 2007 11:18:19 AM

"I want someone to fix the insanity of tying health insurance to employment"


You can blame the labor unions for that. In WW2, there were wage caps that forbid unions from negotiating wages, therefore they turned their attention to healthcare instead. In europe, the labor unions lobbied the government directly and didnt mess around with employment-based system.

Posted by: joe blow | Mar 25, 2007 2:02:02 PM

I can't fault anyone for laughing at the round-table thing. At the same time, the reason I like Obama is because he tends to state a good end-goal, frame the timetable, then get to the hard work of building a policy concensus. It's not always exciting, especially for a base that wants action now, but I think it's entirely appropriate at this point in the campaign season.

Edwards positioned himself well by coming up with a detailed plan early, but it doesn't necessarily follow that the rest of the candidates are "running late" on the issue.

And I liked Clinton's '92 economic roundtables, too. So there, table doubters!

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Posted by: judy | Sep 27, 2007 3:20:20 AM

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