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February 09, 2007

"The Republic Party"

This is a terrific rant ("I'm reclaiming my time! I'm reclaiming my time!"), but are we really going to start dropping the letters off their name too? I'm all for fighting back, but I fear it's the English language that's getting wailed on.

February 9, 2007 | Permalink

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I agree - the "Republic Party" was dissonant and petty. Although, I do believe that every use of "Democrat party" should be met with laughter and derision that the person using the phrase is too stupid to know the name of one of the two major political parties in the country. Five or six instances of mockery on political chat shows should nip it in the bud.

Posted by: Craig | Feb 9, 2007 10:30:36 PM

Or "whaled?" ;)

Okay, taking cough syrup & going to bed soon.

Posted by: latts | Feb 9, 2007 10:43:09 PM

I don't like it either, but the only way they're gonna understand is if we fight fire with fire. It's childish and petty-sounding, but you've got to call them names right back when they call you the "Democrat" party. Just let 'em try and complain about it. Then you tell 'em we'll stop if you stop.

I'd favor the "Repub" (REE-pub) party, as in "My colleagues across the aisle in the REE-pub party are more concerned with..."

Posted by: tweez | Feb 9, 2007 11:03:14 PM

I loved how absolutely ridiculous the crap about Pelosi's plane adding to global warming sounded after all that.

Posted by: nolo | Feb 9, 2007 11:11:41 PM

No, no, you don't understand! Republicans care about global warming now. They're so worried, poor dears!

Posted by: Zeno | Feb 9, 2007 11:19:51 PM

Stop whining. Weiner is making a point. If the guy calls the GOP the Republic party for the next 5 years, then, yeah, he's being childish. Doing it one speech is just throwing it back in their faces...and deservedly so.

I have a little rule I like to call the "rule of either/or". Either loudly complain about the GOP calling us the Democrat Party OR shut up when Weiner uses the term Republic Party.

Posted by: space | Feb 9, 2007 11:47:51 PM

tweez is right. You have to fight fire with fire.

I'd apply this to ALL the crappy behavior by the GOP: holding secret committee meetings, holding open votes, changing bills wholesale in conference committees, not letting members read bills in advance, etc.

Instead of simply of simply abolishing the practices, the Democrats should have made the minority leadership publicly repudiate these tactics, admit that they were wrong, and promise not to reinstitute them if they regain power. If the GOP refused, well...they couldn't complain then, could they?

Posted by: space | Feb 9, 2007 11:54:48 PM

Fear not for the English language. To whatever degree it is petty to use these clipped terms, it will be the general consensus that decides whether to adopt, or even recognize them in the future. I have no doubt that blogs have added to the speed with which language is created and spread, but the acceptance into broader use happens less frequently. Some attempts at rhetoric are more effective than others, and I suspect that the shallow nature of using "Democrat Party" will lead to its relegation to the wingnut rhetorical trash heap.

Posted by: jmack | Feb 10, 2007 12:37:01 AM

I'm all for fighting back, but I fear it's the English language that's getting wailed on.

What are you, some kind of dirty prescriptivist?

Posted by: Jason | Feb 10, 2007 12:57:55 AM

Seems like if some worry about the language deteriorating was urgent, we'd be more concerned about the words like "surge" (instead of escalation), and 'traitor' for someone who doesn't follow the BushCO line. uu

Bullies are rarely defeated with ignoring them, or telling them to play fair. A harder punch to their nose works wonders.

Anti-gay assaulters used to pick on single gays on the street in SF until the gays got organized and start carrying whistles in their pockets. At attempted attack was whistled and the neighborhood responded, with appropriate real-time punishment being delivered to the bashers. The bashers learned real quickly to stay out of gay neighborhoods or to behave

I'm not an advocate of violence, in word or deed. But whipping their ass is sometimes the only way to make the point that bad behavior won't be tolerated.

Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Feb 10, 2007 2:16:13 AM

The Republics need a strong dose of their own medicine. On one level its wrong - not for the language aspect as you suggest as its through these methods the language developes - because we will never out stupid the stupids. But we really have to demonstrate that we will take nothing from the Republithugs. No slanders, no lies, no attacks, no disrepect, no petty provications, no insults should go unanswered. I want them to fear us.

Posted by: LowLife | Feb 10, 2007 7:42:29 AM

More like this, please. It is in-your-face but doesn't interfere with good government or the people's business.

The Republic Party needs to learn about the rule of law, a rule applies equally to everyone. If the rule is civility, then civility all around.

Posted by: 22state | Feb 10, 2007 9:14:04 AM

This was a great way to start my weekend. Bloody brilliant! More of this, indeed.

(I just shouted at my boys: Mama gets to write today. I'm reclaiming my time! I'm reclaiming my time!)

And I agree--having to endure years of RE-pubs would be a torturous, profoundly irritating experience...oh yeah, right.

Posted by: litbrit | Feb 10, 2007 9:32:03 AM

I dunno, my problem with it is that it's not nasty-sounding enough.

Republic party--maybe we can over-pronounce the middle syllable and make it almost dirty? Repubic party?

Or maybe wecall them the Republic party, and us the Democracy party. We're not the Democratic party--we're the democracy party. Vote Democracy!

I think we win that battle.

Posted by: anonymous | Feb 10, 2007 11:45:58 AM

Although, I do believe that every use of "Democrat party" should be met with laughter and derision that the person using the phrase is too stupid to know the name of one of the two major political parties in the country.

And I do believe that focusing on the proper adjectival form of "Democrat" is a waste of time.

Posted by: Alon Levy | Feb 10, 2007 12:56:04 PM

"This can't be the A team"

Heh.

Posted by: Pooh | Feb 10, 2007 1:26:54 PM

"...but I fear it's the English language that's getting wailed on."

Whaled on. As in whaling away (thrashing, beating etc.).

Sorry, apologies I still haven't got over the way that the Guardian once called me a pendant (a most amusing typo don't you think? It did have to be that one word.)

Posted by: Tim Worstall | Feb 10, 2007 2:26:29 PM

Alon, but precision of language is essential. Whoever can define the other holds the advantage in an argument. That definition can be like a gun in the middle of the room, and whoever gets to it first holds an advantage over the other. Imagine how sorry Kerry is that he got saddled with the name "flip-flopper" even though any Senator could be labeled similarly based on voting records. I agree that using "Democrat Party" is petty and asinine, but we must push back against its use or it stands a chance of becoming more accepted beyond wingnut political discourse.

Posted by: jmack | Feb 10, 2007 2:44:23 PM

This is the bitch slap theory of politics with the Democrats doing the bitch slapping. Last week Bush went to the Democrats and, while not exactly apologizing, called attention to his "Democrat Party" slur and tried to make a joke out of it by using the term "Republic party." Now, with this rant on the House floor, it's as if the Democrats are saying: this is what you get for grovelling: more abuse.

Posted by: bobbo | Feb 10, 2007 7:18:58 PM

Alon, but precision of language is essential. Whoever can define the other holds the advantage in an argument. That definition can be like a gun in the middle of the room, and whoever gets to it first holds an advantage over the other.

Then start acting like a democratic party instead of hoping the name will rescue you. Among all non-issues that exist in American politics, the "Democrat" versus "Democratic" thing is by far the most ridiculous. I don't see Republicans complain that they're called the GOP, or the British Lib Dems complain that their leaders are referred to as "Liberal Democrat leaders."

Posted by: Alon Levy | Feb 11, 2007 1:09:49 PM

"I don't see Republicans complain that they're called the GOP"

I was under the impression that this was a self-chosen acronym. Isn't it?

Posted by: Dustin | Feb 11, 2007 6:48:11 PM

I have no idea. But it still removes the "republican" part from the name even more than "Democrat party" removes "democratic."

Posted by: Alon Levy | Feb 11, 2007 9:04:33 PM

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Posted by: judy | Sep 26, 2007 10:45:19 PM

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