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August 14, 2006

Optics

This is the sort of thing that unsettles progressives about TNR. Mike Crowley's in a huff today because some DailyKos diarist parodied the removal of Saddam Hussein's statue by showing one of Lieberman taking a tumble. "I don't think you have to be a Joe apologist," he writes, "to find this pretty deplorable." Fair enough. What's weird, though, is that the RNC -- not some random Kos diarist -- put up a shot smearing Ned Lamont by putting him near Howard Dean who, it turned out, had a little Hitler mustache stenciled onto his lip. That picture was also pasted on the front page of DailyKos, but it's only the anti-Joe stuff that elicited outrage. As it is, I don't think you need to be much of a liberal to find that officially-sanctioned Nazi smear worse than a diarist's tasteless photoshopping.

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...put up a shot smearing Ned Lamont by putting him near Howard Dean who, it turned out, had a little Hitler mustache stenciled onto his lip.

Wow! Thicken up your skin a little will ya'? It seems perfectly fine to use "Dear Leader", "BushCo.", "Boxturtle" and other derrogatory terms when speaking about the left's perceived enemies, but when it's Ned, the darling of the moonbat wing, somehow it's not legitimate. Lighten up.

Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 14, 2006 11:44:19 AM

Fred -

There's a difference between a blogger and a National Committee for a major political party.

Posted by: DivGuy | Aug 14, 2006 11:50:33 AM

Ezra was just explaining why the left net-roots don't like TNR, because they are much more eager to find left-wing flaws (no matter how deep they must dig) than mention right-wing ones of similar nature.

Posted by: Tony v | Aug 14, 2006 11:51:48 AM

Whaddaya mean, "unsettles"? Mr. Klein seems to pay attention to TNR (as far as I can tell, it's because he has buddies there). Otherwise, most liberals wrote off the rag years ago. There's just not a lot of talent in Marty Peretz' shop. Worrying about this latest TNR antic is a little like agonizing about the authenticity of the photos in Weekly World News -- which, by the way, is invariably a better value for your magazine dollar.

Posted by: sglover | Aug 14, 2006 12:13:16 PM

Fred, I've seen balloons with thicker skin than you.

Posted by: Christmas | Aug 14, 2006 12:27:24 PM

DivGuy,

Plus, derogatory terms like "Bu$hCo" "rethuglicans" and "Dear Leader" don't violate Godwin's Law.

Fred, really. You have a problem with "Bu$hCo"? If you want to bring civility back, start hounding on those who demonized "KKKlinton" to usher in this wonderful new age of hyper-partisanship. We're just playing the same game now...

Posted by: verplanck colvin | Aug 14, 2006 12:33:26 PM

Personally, I try really hard not to use stupid term like these for either side. It makes the person using them weak.

Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 14, 2006 12:40:06 PM

I think the relevant concept here is that he's being hoist on his own petard. Remember this exchange?

"The capture of Saddam is a good thing which I hope very much will help keep our soldiers safer. But the capture of Saddam has not made America safer", said Dean.

“Howard Dean has climbed into his own spider hole of denial if he believes that the capture of Saddam Hussein has not made America safer”, Lieberman said.

Posted by: raymond | Aug 14, 2006 12:45:56 PM

There is always a short-term and a long term view. Many times, the anti-war left likes to use the short-term in their arguments. By their reckoning, Going to war with Germany on foreign soil didn't do a damn thing for the US at that time, but in the long-term, there is no doubt it made us safer.

Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 14, 2006 12:57:22 PM

Perhpas the photoshopper was trying to say that the Leiberman loss was a staged event and that we should pull back our camera lenses to see what's really happening.

I don't really see his (ber?) point, but that's certainly what I think of when I think about the tumbling of the Saddam statue.

Posted by: pfc | Aug 14, 2006 1:08:05 PM

Between "blogofascism" and now this, those guys over at TNR need to lighten up. What they don't get is that one diarist on DKos does not the voice of a movement make. Anybody can post on DKos as long as they sign up and wait 24 hours or so; blaming "lefty blogs" for the sentiments of one person, no matter how "deplorable" (and a photoshopped pic of Joe Lieberman is pretty tame stuff, considering the calls for genocide that have become par for the course on the "mainstream" of right-wing blogging), is illogical and, frankly, shows a lack of seriousness about the issues we really face.

Posted by: ersatz | Aug 14, 2006 1:26:16 PM

Of course, Fred, it was the Left that wanted to fight Hitler and the Right that wanted to stay out. But, then, Hitler couldn't have reached us with drones in 45 minutes!

Posted by: calling all toasters. | Aug 14, 2006 1:26:46 PM

Personally, I try really hard not to use stupid term like these for either side. It makes the person using them weak.

Fred,

So does lumping everyone into a convenient straw-based label called "The Left".

Posted by: verplanck colvin | Aug 14, 2006 1:51:38 PM

There was a time when the name "The New Republic" had a quaint, recalling our founding, sound to it, and also a glimmer of hope that arouse out of progressivism and the New Deal.

Now, because of the editorial and authorial slant, TNR as a name has more than a whiff of fascism about it.

Only new, liberal (replacing the two right wingers who own the majority of the company) ownership - not just Martin Peretz's departure - and new marching orders for the staff (and a defenestration or 4 or 5) could bring TNR back to serious influence.

For now, can we just forget the magazine and it's staff stupidities in print?

Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Aug 14, 2006 2:12:09 PM

So does lumping everyone into a convenient straw-based label called "The Left".

I didn't realize that "left" was an insult to you. There are many Democrats that are not really all that left. We don't hear much from them since the hippie faction of the party took over.

I think all will see that there are plenty of rational Democrats when Lieberman wins the seat again as an independent and that event will make it clear who is running the Democratic party.

Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 14, 2006 5:30:52 PM

Of course, Fred, it was the Left that wanted to fight Hitler and the Right that wanted to stay out. But, then, Hitler couldn't have reached us with drones in 45 minutes!

Posted by: calling all toasters.

No it wasn't. You're lying, and that's why Fred's a better person than you. The Left (TM) WAS opposed to U.S. involvement in World War II. It must be true because Fred said so!

Posted by: Cyrus | Aug 14, 2006 6:59:48 PM

Someone alert Crowley. Can we have higher standards for "deplorable"?

Posted by: Matt Weiner | Aug 15, 2006 11:25:05 AM

Actually, the left, as usual couldn't see the evil before their eyes and took the short term view. The delay cost countless additional lives.

Here who wanted to stay out of WW II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 16, 2006 4:55:04 PM

I don't think it was a big photoshop deal, altho it wasn't even funny or clever (except to some kossacks) yet it does illustrate the 16 year old mentality that kos officially sanctions by letting the worst most abusive members post fp diaries and dominate the circle-jerking threads.

it wins nobody over to the democrat's team.

but does anybody take TNR seriously?

Posted by: christian | Aug 16, 2006 5:17:24 PM

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