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April 14, 2006

Quote of the Day

Lance Mannion:

This is the Right Wing Kulturkampf ur-myth restated. Once upon time we were all good and well-behaved, if plagued by demons and temptations within. You know, back in the day, when lynching was a spectator sport, children were worked to death in factories and mineshafts, and employers thought nothing of hiring goons to beat and kill workers who dared strike for safer working conditions and decent pay.

Then came the Fall, and with it moral relativism, post-modernism, Freudianism, Marxism, feminism, birth control, Roe v. Wade, situation comedies that make dad into a buffoon, and black people who expect to live in our neighborhoods and send their kids to our schools...whoops, did we say that last one out loud? We meant entitlements, the nanny state, and the culture of dependence brought about by Welfare.

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All these links...Jeez, if you like Lance so much, why doncha go marry him?

I jest. I jest!

It's a damn good sum-up, yah. :)

Posted by: Sandals | Apr 14, 2006 9:21:48 AM

That is some brilliant stuff - and I'm not just saying that because Fitzgerald is my favorite author ever, for the reason Lance cites. I have been thinking about Fitzgerald too, watching the Duke story unfold - it is, once again, the carelessness, and the breaking of things because somehow the rules don't apply that gives me pause when conservatives try to write this off to "boys will be boys" and claim the girl is lying. I don't know what the truth is (yet), but rich college boys hiring strippers for their jock parties? I'm pretty sure that's a recipe for a lot of trouble. And I don't think it's liberals who look the other way at that behavior.

Posted by: weboy | Apr 14, 2006 9:36:55 AM

"...rich college boys hiring strippers for their jock parties? I'm pretty sure that's a recipe for a lot of trouble..."

So how do you know they're rich?

Or are you just stereotyping based on your prejudices?

And do you realize how prim and prudish and downright prissy you sound when you - as an alleged male - go tut-tutting the hiring of strippers by young men? Who do you think hires them anyway? The AARP crowd?

Posted by: zomby woof | Apr 14, 2006 10:50:39 AM

He's taken, the bastard.

Posted by: Ezra | Apr 14, 2006 10:56:44 AM

Frankly, I don't care if it sounds "prissy" or not - I'm not going to give even passing credence to the notion that this kind of behavior is something we should be lauding in young men - and to that extent, I do think the moralists like Brooks are not necessarily wrong. Furthermore, I will stick by rich as an adjective, if only because the class differences between Duke and its surrounding community have played a big part in this story, including some particularly ugly, brutal characterizations of the woman in question. And I'm not excepting myself from the fact that I'm probably part of that same group, with my expensive liberal arts degree and well paying job. It's why I find Fitzgerald so pointed in his critiques - it's not hard to be part of that careless, breaking things crowd.

Posted by: weboy | Apr 14, 2006 11:43:58 AM

Frankly, I don't care if it sounds "prissy" or not...

Of course you don't, Susan.

Posted by: Fred Jones | Apr 14, 2006 12:27:57 PM

I'm with you weboy.

Posted by: Mr Furious | Apr 14, 2006 12:33:33 PM

"Frankly, I don't care if it sounds "prissy" or not...

Of course you don't, Susan."

My God, Fred. I didn't realize you were so insecure in your masculinity.

'Course, fear is kinda the dominant emotion in most conservatives:


Posted by: Kylroy | Apr 14, 2006 1:19:57 PM

Yes, weboy is assuming that the Duke lacrosse players are rich. But the odds are he's right. We're talking about a bunch of guys at an expensive private (is that redundant?) university that all play a sport that is predominantly played at high schools in rich suburbs and at prep schools.

Posted by: JohnM | Apr 14, 2006 2:19:27 PM

"Frankly, I don't care if it sounds "prissy" or not..."
"I'm with you weboy."

So admit it - neither of you has ever been to a strip bar, or to a bachelor's party, have you?

Posted by: zomby woof | Apr 14, 2006 2:36:48 PM

Sorry kitty cats, next comment to trot out sexism as a slur gets deleted. Do it twice and you're banned. You all can disagree, but it keep it on the up-and-up.

Posted by: Ezra | Apr 14, 2006 3:18:29 PM

Hm. Didn't the model camp sport the motto "Work Brings Freedom" ? You know, where Red Cross teams could see that nothing unusual was going on ?
A chap really has to watch out for that "left-leaning" press (owned by whom ?).

Posted by: opit | Apr 15, 2006 12:13:46 AM

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