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September 20, 2005
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Red State's got a Ginsburg-Roberts comparison that doesn't quite mean what they think it means:
Ginsburg: 17 Hours of Questioning
Breyer: 18 Hours of Questioning
Rehnquist (for Chief Justice): 12 Hours of Questioning
Roberts: 22 Hours of Questioning
Ginsburg: 216 Questions
Roberts: 510 Questions
They deploy this to prove that John Roberts has answered so many questions that unless senators start relying on Trivial Pursuit cards, they can't possibly think of anything more to ask. But that's not what the stats prove. If you do the math, Ginsburg answered 12.17 questions an hour, Roberts, in contrast, sped through 23.18. So senators asked Roberts almost twice as many questions per hour than they asked Ginsburg. Why?
Any guesses?
Ginsburg answered the questions. And answering questions bogs down a Senators' ability to rapidly ask them. Roberts, in contrast, didn't answer most of the questions, preferring instead to bat them back for being too specific/vague/likely/unlikely/person/professional and forcing his interrogators to try and get the same info through different rhetorical permutation. This doesn't show Roberts was forthcoming, it shows he was frustrating. So thanks for this one, Red State -- I had a feeling Ginsburg was more open, but I'd no idea the numbers proved the difference so stark.
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As a moderate, I find this blog interesting. I watched most of the confirmation hearings with an objective eye. This was challenge. I did not watch the Ginsburg hearings, so I can't compare the two. I found most of the questioning, by the senators on both sides, just plain grandstanding. It was the senator's time to appeal to their base, liberal and conservative.
I have another observation; namely, the only reason that Roberts is going to be on the Supreme Court has to do with the fact that Republicans are the in majority. If the Democrats were in the majority, the senators would be confirming another ACLU attorney like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Washington has become highly polarized. Thus, in the future, moderate thinking judges will probably not be nominated. This is the way I see it. Take care.
Posted by: Mild Mannered Reporter | Sep 21, 2005 7:03:00 AM
Ginsburg answered the questions.
Below are several examples of questions Justice Ginsburg refused to answer:
- Sen. Metzenbaum asked about her opinion on antitrust cases. Justice Ginsburg’s response:
o “Antitrust… is not my strong suit… I can’t give you an answer to your abstract question”
- Sen. Leahy pushed for a position on the Free Exercise Clause and the Establishment Clause. Justice Ginsburg’s response:
o “I prefer not to address a question like that… I would prefer to await a particular case…”
- A question was posed by Senator Thurmond regarding to school choice. Justice Ginsburg’s response:
o “That is the kind of question that a judge cannot answer at-large… judges work from the particular case, not from the general proposition… This is the very kind of question that I ruled out.”
- Senator Feinstein asked a question relating to the 2nd Amendment and particularly the so-called “assault weapons ban.” Justice Ginsburg’s response:
o “…all I can tell you is that this is an amendment that has not been looked at by the Supreme Court since 1939… apart from the specific context, I really can’t expound on it. It is an area in which my court has had no business, and one I had no acquaintance as a law teacher.”
- Senator Thurmond asked Justice Ginsburg how she would approach reapportionment plans and apply the Equal Protection Clause. Justice Ginsburg’s response:
o “…this is the very kind of question that would be injudicious for me to address…”
- Senator Cohen asked about her position on sexual orientation laws. Justice Ginsburg’s response:
o “I cannot say one word on that subject that would not violate what I said had to be my rule about no hints, no forecasts, no previews.”
Justice Ginsburg refused to answer several senators’ questions for a number of reasons. She ended up being confirmed by the Senate with a 96-3 vote. The U.S. Senate recognized the temperament and reason for caution on specific issues as being valid and appropriate.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Sep 21, 2005 9:15:21 AM
Ginsburg answered the questions.
What?
What questions did she answer that Roberts did not?
Maybe Roberts spent more time in front of the commitee cuz Republicans didn't demand another day to grandstand during Ginsberg's hearing.
Republicans knew Ginsberg was a staunch liberal(she was an ACLU attorney, she wrote the age of consent should be twelve, etc.) but they overwelmingly approved her cuz she was the president's choice, she had no bombshells in her past(beyond the ACLU thing) and the president won the election.
You know what? Roberts probably will vote to overturn Roe v Wade cuz he might, as many people believe, not see a right to an abortion in the constitution.
Republicans knew Ginsberg would vote to uphold Roe if she got the chance, but they confirmed her anyway.
Elections matter.
This shows the difference between the parties. One party just has more class than the other. Kind of like a double standard on SCOTUS nominations (conservatives must answer questions that liberals should not answer). Or like the tradition of former presidents not critisizing the current administration. Clinton only made his recent statements cuz he knew Stephi would not challenge his bullshit. The fact is that under W, poverty as a percentage of the country has gone down, spending on entitlements for the poor has almost doubled in dollar amounts and gone up three percent, and tax revenues are at record highs. The federal deficit under Clinton was about 4% of GDP and is about 2.5% under W.
All them poor blacks stuck in New Orleans were victims of the failed "Great Society" and the incompetent mayor of New Orleans and Governor of Louisiana. I think hurricane Rita will show the difference between compitence and incompitence.
Harry Reid's decision to not vote to confirm Roberts shows that even the most qualified conservative is not worthy of the SCOTUS, because they are conservative.
Like children throwing a tantrum.
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Posted by: Captain Toke | Sep 21, 2005 10:24:38 AM
Harry Reid's decision to not vote to confirm Roberts shows that even the most qualified conservative is not worthy of the SCOTUS, because they are conservative.
This is nonsense. Harry Reid's decision to not vote to confirm Roberts shows that Harry Reid does not think John Roberts should be on the Supreme Court. It has nothing to do with worthiness. Why do "elections matter" in terms of presidents nominating justices, but not in terms of senators voting to confirm judges?
. If the Democrats were in the majority, the senators would be confirming another ACLU attorney like Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
Washington has become highly polarized. Thus, in the future, moderate thinking judges will probably not be nominated. This is the way I see it. Take care.
This is pretending that Clinton's nominees were actually liberal. I find it hard to see Breyer as liberal at all. Ginsburg is kind of liberal, but she's no William O. Douglas. And her time as an ACLU lawyer was decades behind her at the time she was nominated for the Supreme Court.
Posted by: John | Sep 21, 2005 12:06:41 PM
Captain, just calm down.
A website (popular in conservative circles) claimed that since Ginsberg answered less questions than Roberts, she must have been less forthcoming than him. Ezra noted that she actually spent more time on each question than he did, which would be a sign of more thorough answers (and less need for repetitive questioning).
Now this doesn’t actually prove anything, and there could be plenty of explanations. One can spend a long time not-answering a question (and if I were stone-walling, that’s what I would do certainly). I doubt Ezra takes that seriously as proof of Ginsberg’s openness either, just countering a silly GOP piece of logic, and pointing out that the guys at red-state aren’t comfortable with math.
As for elections mattering, shrug. Did people vote on abortion? Did the President in 2004 ever promise to appoint a pro-life justice? Do the Senators that have been elected (and if you count the RINO’s are majority pro-choice/Democrat) count? Do you think that the country that elected Clinton to nominate Ginsburg is that radically different from the country that elected Bush in terms of abortion politics? If I recall, a majority of the country is pro-choice (if not pro-Roe), the President dodged the abortion question as much as possible, and a decent number of pro-choice independents voted for Bush because of the War on Terror, Kerry’s demeanor, or other non-related issues. You can say “elections have consequences” as a practical matter, but as a moral one there’s little worth to the idea in our electoral culture dominated by personality politics.
Posted by: Tony Vila | Sep 21, 2005 1:26:31 PM
Was it possible that the Senators spent even more time orating and pontificating with Ginsburg than they did with Roberts? Perhaps they were filibustering?
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Posted by: ginny | Jun 12, 2007 3:41:36 AM
If you see a turtle on a fence post, he has had some help. imho
Posted by: Aissen | Oct 9, 2008 4:33:25 AM
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