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September 25, 2005

Don't Know Much About History: Elite Future Mommies

By Pepper of the Daily Pepper

The New York Times profiled young women with bright futures, all going to Ivy League colleges. Normally, college freshmen have no idea what they want to do with their lives, but these women know exactly what they want.

They want to be full-time mothers.

At Yale and other top colleges, women are being groomed to take their place in an ever more diverse professional elite. It is almost taken for granted that, just as they make up half the students at these institutions, they will move into leadership roles on an equal basis with their male classmates.

There is just one problem with this scenario: many of these women say that is not what they want.

Not that there's anything wrong with that (said with a dash of "Seinfeld"). Being a parent is rewarding for many people, but these women are making dangerous assumptions that are limiting their options AND the options of their children. List of said assumptions after the jump ...

1. Stay-at-home parenting is a hard job that wins my utmost respect, but I don't see any future male students saying, "I'll work at a prestigious law firm until I'm 30, and then after I have a child, I'll return to the home." In fact, one young man in the article said, "I think that's sexy." Yeah, it's real sexy if you don't have to deal with the diapers. Why are these women assuming that they have to be the stay-at-home parent? Maybe it's just California, but stay-at-home dads are common, and their children are just as well-adjusted.

2. These women carry a sense of entitlement as big as the moon. One woman in the article said, ""I accept things how they are," she said. "I don't mind the status quo. I don't see why I have to go against it." I thought that people in the Ivy League were supposed to ask questions, to at least wonder why things are the way they are. They learned nothing from the hard work of feminists before them, nothing at all. And they are our best and brightest. Even more important, they shouldn't take the choices feminism gave them for granted. Women weren't always allowed into the Ivies, and they have no sense of tradition or even the realization that they have added responsibility for the generations of women who follow them into the Ivy League.

3. These women are assuming that they will be able to quit their jobs - this is a luxury for women who were raised in wealthy households and who are accustomed to a certain standard of living. Most families with children struggle enough to get by on two salaries, and, given the current condition of the economy, one spouse with a good salary isn't always enough to keep the family going. What about illness? Divorce? Accidents?

I also feel that it is a matter of social class. Instead of going to a state school, they are going to Yale because a) their families expect it of them and b) they think they will meet a higher class of male in the Ivy League. Both reasons have nothing to do with education - and many poor young women would kill for an Ivy education.

When I was 17, I was one of those women. I went to a well-known private institution on scholarship. I take having a good education very, very seriously because where I grew up intelligence in women was seen as freakish. A woman who wanted a career had something wrong with her. I couldn't have afforded college if generous members of a scholarship board hadn't seen potential in me. My education opened doors for me, and it was the key to a better life. To see women who have had such amazing opportunities without really having to work for them announce that they will throw it away without waiting to see how their lives turns out dismays me. It makes me worry about the next wave of feminism.

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I think this essay has been pretty well canvassed on the other blogs. Jack Shafer, I believe, has a masterful takedown on the deceptive use of the word "some" and "many" in the article. The bottom line is the questionaire upon which the article is supposedly based is extremely flawed, what people say they want at 19 doesn't really reflect what they do for the rest of their lives, and the numbers are hugely skewed and very unreliable. It would be as accurate to take the flip side of the quesetionnaire and argue that every woman who *didn't* send it in voted with her feet and asserted that there was no way she'd be a stay at home mom. The numbers would look very different and the article would lose its punch, of course, if they had to say "of those who refused the survey with contempt, a hundred percent said they assumed they would continue working even while raising families, as most american women have done for the past 30 years."

Neither the survey, nor the surveyed group, nor the article reflect any actual "reality." So attack it, but attack it as others have for the propaganda aspect of it.

Harvard AB
Yale PhD.
full time mother (for now)

Posted by: aimai | Sep 25, 2005 3:09:21 PM

You might want to look at Garance's article on the Prospect web site (www.prospect.org), which brings Shafer's coments, and some other observations together; as Aimai notes, the premise of the Times piece is incredibly weak.

Having argued with my Mom that this is bad social science masquerading as deep thought (a la Backlash - apparently it never ends), I don't think it's worth wading too far into what the article purportedly proves. But I think if one wants to see increased numbers of parents in the workforce, balancing their parenting with their work responsibilities, more companies need to be more creative and flexible about how they address parents' needs (and I think this is about issues facing both men and women, ultimately). It's also a discussion about making child care alternatives more available and more affordable.

But ultimately, I think it's that the world could use less of this pseudo-social science and less of editors trying to create buzz by bumping something of dubious newsworthiness to the front page.

Posted by: weboy | Sep 25, 2005 3:54:41 PM

I agree that the survey is flawed, and the argument is weak. However, I thought that feminism was supposed to take care of these issues. Even if there are problems with the article, there are a bunch of women out there who are simply unaware of their choices. Few of the women in the survey even realized that they could ask their husbands to stay at home.

Plus, I repeat that it is a class issue. As I said, poor women would kill for the opportunities these women are getting and trivializing. Even if they change their minds years later, their initial responses to the questions are disturbing. I don't know - they should be more grateful for the choices they have because so many woman FOUGHT so they could have those choices.

We can criticize the NYT for even kicking up the issue, but there's evidence that there's a generation of women taking their rights for granted. And we have several of those women working for the White House right now, and I don't like it.

Posted by: Pepper | Sep 25, 2005 4:49:13 PM

Back in about 1986 or so, I asked this absolutely lovely lady who was in several of my classes the lame, yet tried and true pick-up line: "What's a knockout like you doing in a law school like this?"

My mouth hung open in disbelief when she said very matter-of-factly: "Trying to find a rich husband." Granted I saw a lot of this in undergrad, and even dated a home-economics major for a while who actually called her degree, M.R.S., but to see it in grad school really took me by surprise.

BTW, she never did marry and has a modestly sucessful solo practice. I'll assume that I simply wasn't her type.

Posted by: Mark Adams | Sep 26, 2005 6:14:21 AM

Many women come to realize that working in the proffessions at the highest paid level really sucks. People are polite, but their expectations are outrageous in terms of hours. Also it is stressful to report to people who are always striving to the highest standard. Even Ivy grads find this to be a disheartening experience, oftentimes. Compared to these jobs, raising kids looks like a pleasant option, even to those who never really thought about having kids.

Taking an emotional beat down for 60 plus hours a week is something more women will want to leave to their husbands as these women age and get a taste of the top of the professions. Its really a lot less fun than it looks.

Posted by: Neil Paul | Sep 26, 2005 4:22:28 PM

Many women come to realize that working in the proffessions at the highest paid level really sucks. People are polite, but their expectations are outrageous in terms of hours. Also it is stressful to report to people who are always striving to the highest standard. Even Ivy grads find this to be a disheartening experience, oftentimes. Compared to these jobs, raising kids looks like a pleasant option, even to those who never really thought about having kids.

Taking an emotional beat down for 60 plus hours a week is something more women will want to leave to their husbands as these women age and get a taste of the top of the professions. Its really a lot less fun than it looks.

Posted by: Neil Paul | Sep 26, 2005 4:23:27 PM

Many women come to realize that working in the proffessions at the highest paid level really sucks. People are polite, but their expectations are outrageous in terms of hours. Also it is stressful to report to people who are always striving to the highest standard. Even Ivy grads find this to be a disheartening experience, oftentimes. Compared to these jobs, raising kids looks like a pleasant option, even to those who never really thought about having kids.

Taking an emotional beat down for 60 plus hours a week is something more women will want to leave to their husbands as these women age and get a taste of the top of the professions. Its really a lot less fun than it looks.

Posted by: Neil Paul | Sep 26, 2005 4:29:47 PM

Many women come to realize that working in the proffessions at the highest paid level really sucks. People are polite, but their expectations are outrageous in terms of hours. Also it is stressful to report to people who are always striving to the highest standard. Even Ivy grads find this to be a disheartening experience, oftentimes. Compared to these jobs, raising kids looks like a pleasant option, even to those who never really thought about having kids.

Taking an emotional beat down for 60 plus hours a week is something more women will want to leave to their husbands as these women age and get a taste of the top of the professions. Its really a lot less fun than it looks.

Posted by: Neil Paul | Sep 26, 2005 4:30:29 PM

Many women come to realize that working in the proffessions at the highest paid level really sucks. People are polite, but their expectations are outrageous in terms of hours. Also it is stressful to report to people who are always striving to the highest standard. Even Ivy grads find this to be a disheartening experience, oftentimes. Compared to these jobs, raising kids looks like a pleasant option, even to those who never really thought about having kids.

Taking an emotional beat down for 60 plus hours a week is something more women will want to leave to their husbands as these women age and get a taste of the top of the professions. Its really a lot less fun than it looks.

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