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April 12, 2005
Health to the Care
Kash has a great post comparing America's health care with those of other developed nations. As you all know by now, our system's report card lands us in the remedial classes. There's virtually no metric that, when compared to other wealthy nations, we don't languish on the tail-end of. Kevin follows Kash with another great post comparing our house-of-horrors system with the far-superior French model. France is the way to go if you want to sidestep the (way overblown) pitfalls of Canadia Care (as I like to call it) and the total mess that is Britain. But it also shows why we're having such trouble in the health care debate. We've lost all our examples. The right took hold Canada and, despite the fact that their system scores far better than ours and spends much less doing it, painted a nightmarish and wholly false scenario of elderly refugees streaming to Vermont for hip surgery. O'Reilly and friends have spent the last few years striking the word France off the map and crayoning in "UnAmerican Land", so we can't quite laud France. So what have we got? Sweden? Tiny and homogenous. Britain? Uh, best not to mention them. Germany? Yeah, but not really a single-payer system. And so forth.
It's not that folks don't like the idea of government-run health care so much as we've let the prominent examples of how it works get turned against us. So now we mention single-payer and the return volley is full of sick Canadians being strechered into Detroit and uppity Frenchmen in stinktastic waiting rooms. Making single-payer safe for public discussion will require some rehabilitation of its international incarnations. Invoking France's doctor choice and lower spending is a good way to begin, but we're really going to have to tie France to Canada (as they're the most frequent counterexample), make the case for why both are better than what we've got, and then wonder why Republicans don't think American terrifictude can improve on these versions. Because that's really the disconnect here. Other countries aren't perfect, but we're much worse. The argument should then be that we can better the improvement they represent. We are, after all, America; shouldn't we be able to teach the world how health care's done?
As a final point, Kevin's post touches one of the deep fissures in the health care debate. 43,000,000 Americans lack health insurance. That's 70% of Bush's total vote. Now, a bunch of them are children, but even so, that's an enormous constituency. Were they voting as any sort of a bloc, which you'd expect a group tied to the enactment of a certain policy to do, they'd own the political system. But since they're mostly poor and disproportionately young, nobody listens. Add that to the fact that most folks with insurance are reasonably happy with their plans and you've got an overwhelmingly urgent issue perfectly primed to be ignored. And so it is ignored. Later today I'm going to talk a bit more about how vision really means simplicity, and matching the 30-word Republican platform merely means talking about only thirty words of our platform. At least fifteen of those words better be the health care, stupid, because if we can demonstrate that remaking the American system is our primary domestic goal, we'll have both a radical vision and a couple percentage points of new voters ready to tout. As Josh Marshall would say, more later.
Update: See? Now that's the problem with this blog thingie, you spend two weeks talking about nothing but health care plans and, seven days later, no one remembers you ever mentioned them at all. Anyway, root around here if you want some policy to go with your politics.
Update the Sequel: Brad Plumer has more on the structural forces that make the press report on other countries as if they lock their sick up in a room and poke them with sticks. His points are right and, to be clear, I don't mean to say it's all been a massive disinformation campaign by the right. Republicans don't like how things work in other countries so they're wholly justified in emphasizing long waits, less choice, simpler technology, and every other nasty anecdote they can dig up. It's the press's job to cut through that, and it's yet another place where they've failed. But the fact stands that Democrats haven't been assertive on our end of the debate either, and we've spent little-to-no time emphasizing other methods of health care delivery. That's largely because the 1994 debacle traumatized us, but it's time accept our pain and move on.
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The Social Security debate proved that GOP advances on a Democratic issue could be beaten back with a well financed and concerted effort with enough factual support that even the SCLM-types had to notice. Health care is a Democratic issue, and the facts are very much on our side. Where it gets dicey is the money and moving public opinion in favor of change. Democrats need to start laying the groundwork right now (well, that's what ya'll are doing of course, but it's only merrier with a lot more people helping) for major reform of the health care system. A chance to enact reforms that are more than piecemeal, when it comes, is a chance that cannot be wasted without a tremendous effort on our part to finally get the system right. Maybe "There Is No Crisis" could open a sister outfit that drops the "no" in favor of an "a" and adopts a red and white color scheme.
In any event, we will not have the issue forced on us by the Republicans, and if this type of hashing-out and public awareness stuff occurs only when we have Speaker Pelosi or President Edwards it's going to be too late. Everything that's been said about the virtue of preserving SS applies just as much to health care. All that's lacking is the super obvious policy solution and the sense of urgency (and a 250 million dollar ad campaign). I'm glad to see the urgency building and the policy coming together.
Posted by: SamAm | Apr 12, 2005 2:28:55 AM
Hey Ezra, let me just mention something about Canada that's rather obvious but easy to forget.
Geography.
Canada is big. Remarkably big. As well, there's a lot of rural outside areas with substantial populations, but still spread out. Where in the US, a rural small town may have 100-200 people, not enough to get a hospital, a typical "small town" in Canada gets about 2000-3000 people, and lookie here, gets a small hospital. Especially if it's close to high-risk resource gathering.
In a nutshell, there's a lot of repetition of services going on here. And that's basically necessary because of the nature of the geography and population layout of Canada.
The Canadian system is rather expensive, but considering all the geographical problems, it probably couldn't be any better.
Posted by: Karmakin | Apr 12, 2005 7:15:05 AM
I think you've got a good point about the way that a negative image of France and Canada makes it harder for anyone to push for a more efficient American system.
Another example of how the constant drip, drip, drip propaganda of the right can change people's ideas and create a kind of right wing "conventional wisdom"?
The right seem to have realised much sooner than the left that a lot of these biases and ideas do hang together in important ways - they just don't seem to.
Ho hum. Just a thought...
Posted by: J_Cameron | Apr 12, 2005 8:20:59 AM
So, what was Michael Moore's next movie supposed to be about again?
Posted by: David Glynn | Apr 12, 2005 11:44:56 AM
Apart from the 43,000,000 without any insurance, I'm sure there are millions more who think they have decent insurance but don't really. There are a lot of trashy policies out there, with limits and exceptions that you hit quickly if anything truly bad ever happens. Of course, we don't like to think about bad things happening, and as a result these folks won't learn the bad news until the shit hits.
Americans seem to be in denial about health care. We all know a father in his 40s who has two or more kids and no health insurance, but still has all the premium cable channels and just bought a 50 inch flat panel HDTV.
Posted by: wvmcl | Apr 12, 2005 12:10:25 PM
Ezra
I've always been impressed by the French healthcare system. However from what I've previously read pay rates in it are much lower.
Now that wouldn't bother me but I think it would kill any chances of it being applied in the USA.
Posted by: Boethius | Apr 12, 2005 1:07:20 PM
"Republicans don't like how things work in other countries so they're wholly justified in emphasizing long waits, less choice, simpler technology, and every other nasty anecdote they can dig up."
We could, on the other hand, just trot out their massively superior outcome and mortality statistics.
I have had occasion to be in a classroom with a bunch of middle aged people recently (don't ask) who were completely gobsmacked to find out that the US ranks thirty first in life expectancy. They all thought it was in the top three.
Gotta educate the folks. They think they have the best because they don't know any better.
Posted by: digby | Apr 12, 2005 6:24:01 PM
Although the 1st Amendment lets the GOP say what it will about health care and other public policy topics, I don't agree that the job of public officials--elected or not--is simply to grind their party's ax at the expense of public information.
When the GOP and the President refuse to disclose the facts about conditions in other countries, they are acting like the bad father in a family drama out of one of Bradshaw's books on dysfunction.
Tell lies about the world outside, impose rules on the family that serve the addicted head of household, and bully all those who disagree or would seek the truth at the expense of enabling the addicted to continue their abusive behavior.
This is perhaps why Al Gore could have called America a dysfunctional family. We don't know jack about the rest of the world, pretend we have the best of everything and that 'Daddy loves us' when, in fact, 'Daddy' is addicted to lies about the nation and himself, and enabled by a political party that needs to keep the voting public in the dark so we don't have a clue what we're missing and how we could be so much better off given some real choice and options in the way services are delivered.
Not just health care, but education, national defense, law enforcement, employment policy, foreign trade, and a host of other issues, could all benefit from a little bit more honesty and less 'salesmanship' from the self-serving ideologues who seem to win all the elections in this country.
Read a little book titled "We're Number One!" (maybe out of print, published in early 1990s or so). This book compiled a number of descriptive statistics to discuss the standing of the US in comparison to the rest of the world.
By most measures, the US isn't the garden of eden that the rabid patriots make it out to be. You would be surprised, and angry, to see how much better off people are in other nations that don't waste their energy and treasure serving the needs of a deranged plutocracy.
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