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April 26, 2005
Guess Who's Coming to Government?
Last night, the girlfriend and I watched Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, the 1967 flick about two progressive parents trying to accept their daughter's interracial marriage. The film's a bit dated, though the central struggle of liberals trying to live by their ideals while their guts scream otherwise is still pretty compelling. But midway through, there was a bit of dialogue that struck me. Spencer Tracy, the father, and Sidney Poitier, the husband-to-be, are talking about the chances for Poitier's potential children (and Tracy's grandchildren). The father believes that they'll have none. His daughter, according to Poitier, believes they'll all be president. But his daughter is a naive, flighty girl and even Poitier admits that he doesn't share her optimism. Instead, he jokes, he'll settle for Secretary of State.
Poitier's bride was supposedly utopian for believing mixed-race kids could ascend to the presidency, and Poitier himself was kidding when he said they could become Secretary of State. The whole thing was about how slow progress was likely to be. And yet the movie was made in 1967. Accept its timeline and assume the couple had a child the next year. That kid would be 38 right now. The last Secretary of State was a black man, the current one is a black woman. The brightest star in Democratic politics, and the most oft-mentioned for a future presidency, is a half-black, half-white Senator named Barack Obama.
Seems to me we've done pretty good.
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"Seems to me we've done pretty good."
Sorry, Ezra. Tell this to the folks in Camden, or North Philly, or Compton, or Cabrini Green, or . . . well, you get the point.
We've made tremendous progress, but institutional racism is still rampant in this country.
Posted by: urizon | Apr 26, 2005 1:36:21 PM
Indeed. But we're moving quicker than most ever thought we would.
Posted by: Ezra | Apr 26, 2005 1:53:53 PM
There was a Simpson's episode where they joked that it'd be 2088 before we had a gay president. (At least, an openly gay one). Maybe it'll be sooner...
Posted by: Keith | Apr 26, 2005 2:08:08 PM
Some suspect that we've already got a gay in the WH, though he's mostly in the closet.
I don't buy the argument that some 1967 movie indicates what were the (low) expectations at that time versus today's record of progress.
Yes, some progress for the middle class and working people. None for the ghettos. Almost none in 'policy' or management positions in business or government.
How many black US Senators?
How many CEOs in major enterprises?
Our inner city schools are probably worse.
And what about the lily-white suburbs, and their schools?
Graduate education in law, medicine, science, technology?
And now Medicaid is being slashed or eliminated (MO).
Progress means progress, and what we have isn't that.
Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Apr 26, 2005 2:23:20 PM
So how long until we have a competent black Secretary of State? Would the white parents in the movie have been satisfied with the shitty job our black Secretaries of State have done? I suspect that they would have traded a little more inequality in one position for a lot more equality in society at large.
On the other hand, as Chappelle said, don't ever be the first black man to do anything.
Posted by: diddy | Apr 26, 2005 2:28:57 PM
Having been around in those days, it is a great achievement. Which raises the question, what did Democrats lose, as in LBJ saying he had sacrificed the South for a generation.
Well, the South was by far in 1965 the most anti-union economically backward part of the country. If the story of the last forty years is the trading of economic justice for social progress, there we might have the cause.
Posted by: bob mcmanus | Apr 26, 2005 3:54:34 PM
No one has mentioned the fact that Obama is the first African-American male to be elected to the United States Senate since Reconstruction, and only the second black person, overall, after Carol Mosely-Braun (also from the Land of Lincoln, fittingly).
Having persons of color in high places makes all of us think that real progress is being made, when in fact many urban areas are worse now than they've ever been. Some neighborhoods, such as Harlem, are undergoing a new Renaissance you say? How many working families are being chased out so that affluent folks could come in and "gentrify" the joint? I watched it happen in the East Village during the eighties, now it's happening in upper Manhattan, it's even happening in the Bowery, for Christ's sake! CBGB'S might be forced to close its doors due to the astronomical rents. Sigh.
I will say this, however: There is a burgeoning African-American middle class in many parts of the country, perhaps the best example is in Prince George's County, Maryland. So perhaps we're reaching a kind of critical mass, one in which enough wealth has been created within the African-American community that it can't help but become successful with or without the help of the entrenched white powers-that-be. Let's hope so, because there certainly isn't any help coming down the pike from the bunch currently in power.
Oh, and one last thing: Fuck "gentrification!" How about paying working folks a living wage, instead? Can we try that one again? Seemed to work for my parents and grandparents.
Posted by: urizon | Apr 26, 2005 5:59:53 PM
huh?
i mean granted, the modern GOP is something that noone could have envisioned in the 60s, but wha?
look at this "black robed tyrants" and "black robed traitors" talk. where did it come from? go read orcinus. the answer is the fucking Aryan Nations, and Posse Comitatus before that. look at David Brooks quoting a white supremacist for his "natalists" column. look at Michelle Malkin writing for VDare. look at stormfront arranging a "riot" for Bush in florida. look at Republican senators expressing support for the Minutemen. it is very, very remarkable that the GOP is able to make hay with high-profile tokenism while at the same time systematically coopting and mainstreaming right wing extremists-- including white supremacists. what it's not is a sign that we've come a long way, baby.
Posted by: yurg | Apr 26, 2005 6:20:40 PM
Urizon,
The first African American Senator since Reconstruction was Edward Brooke who as a Republican was elected to the Senate twice from Massachusetts (1966 and 1972).
Posted by: Vadranor | Apr 26, 2005 9:38:33 PM
I guess that makes Obama the third. Wow, that's a fifty percent increase!
Posted by: urizon | Apr 26, 2005 10:18:09 PM
As the girlfriend, I must add my two cents (as I present during said video viewing). We paused the movie partway through to talk about this, and Ezra made the opposite point from what I was going to. I heard them say that and thought, "poor, violent, awful urban centers", and Ezra thought, "two black secretaries of state!" I thought it was a good point, so I meditated on mine.
Basically, I agree with all the commentors here; way too little has happened, but some great advances have been made.
Bottom line: we're still fucking far.
Good film, though.
Posted by: kate | Apr 27, 2005 2:11:03 AM
More on what I was saying above:
Posted by: yurg | Apr 27, 2005 2:46:18 PM
belatedly: (via Atrios.)
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