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March 07, 2005
In Defense of the DLC
There's been a lot of talk about the DLC's increasing marginalization lately. From Digby's terrific post on what drove him from their side to Kenneth Baer's article on how they can revive themselves (become reformers and modernizers), the 20th anniversary of From's organization is garnering the same sort of props that the founders of New Coke must enjoy yearly. But while the DLC's brand of split-the-difference, find-the-middle politics might be archaic in the era of DeLay and Rove, we still need them there trying.
Alright -- deep breath -- this is going to bring me in for a lot of criticism, but I disagree with Matt's much-lauded post on the excessive factionalization of the Democratic party. Democratic rhetoric is overly factionalized, but our politics are not. We're in a tough spot here. Republicans are strong among majority blocs -- white males, Christians, etc. Democrats find their support among minority groups, be they ethnic, economic, or religious. This has a habit of coming out in our rhetoric, particularly when the speaker is unable to effectively deliver an address and unwilling to dictate what his campaign's philosophy will be.
But that's the fault of squishy candidatrs, not African-Americans. It's not our interest groups who are leaving the party deficient on national security. Indeed, without them, our preexisting perception failures in that area would have doomed our party, not left it a shade away from 50%+1. So clamping down on factionalism is not, in my eyes, the correct prescription. Indeed, we're not half as factionally motivated as the Republicans. It just so happens that their interest groups are bigger, and, somehow, more accepted. There's no doubt that 15-20% of this administration's policies are pander-bills for the Christian Right. Similarly, the NeoCons gets their foreign policy adventures, the fiscal hawks get their budget rhetoric, the rich get their tax breaks, the anti-New Dealers get their Social Security privatization, the majority-builders get their Medicare and NCLB bills, and so forth. Republicans are better at painting this as part of a coherent philosophy, but even a cursory look into the innards of these policies shows the total lack of internal coherency, it's really just a messaging thing.
How does this relate to the DLC? Settle down, I'm getting there. The reason factional politics are important is that they give disparate interest groups a community within the larger party. That allows the party's leaders to cross their agendas, as the interest groups are connected to a smaller, like-minded structure able to keep them loyal even when the folks at the top ignore their demands. That's how the Christian Right deals with Bush's heresy -- by being comforted by Ralph Reed and Karl Rove. And that's how the budget hawks and Goldwaterites deal with his profligacy, through reassurances from Grover Norquist and Stephen Moore. Their doomed fight for the soul of the party proceeds, their investment in the party increases, and their loyalty, when the chips are down, continues. They might step out of line now and again, providing quotes for a New York Times article on the President's precarious position with homo-haters or the increasing anxiety over his deficit-spending, but when the votes need counting, they know which lever to pull.
For conservative Democrats, the DLC acts as that structure. Lieberman, Carper, Landrieu and others can strut about pontificating on centrism and bipartisanship and market-based solutions and the perils of liberalism, but at the end of most days, they still vote like Democrats. That's because they see themselves as engaged with the Democratic party. Maybe not dominant in it, but definitely engaged. Whether or not they've already lost the fight for the soul of the party, it's important that they still feel invested in the struggle. Al From's base-baiting is annoying, but it's not really dangerous -- indeed, it shows he and his are still involved in the party. It's when he shuts up and gives up that we've got a problem.
So I wouldn't be too quick to attack the DLC. We need it, or something like it, functioning as a platform for conservative Democrats often uncomfortable with the party's direction. And not just elected officials from red states, but portions of our base that find themselves on the rightmost edge of our party should be able to claim an affiliation that doesn't leave them stammering to explain the contradictions. If that label is to be "New Democrat", then so be it. Because so long as we lack a comfortable, impenetrable majority, anybody willing to place a "D" after their name is engaged in basically the same fight. And though the squabbling and backbiting is a problem, it's also an outlet for antiparty energies that leaves the participants more invested in the Democratic party's future, not less. So it's fine to consider the DLC's role reduced and their chairman irritating, but I wouldn't wish them out of the party, particularly not when we're out of the majority. They need to have a place at the table so their ideological soulmates feel that they've got a role in the talks and a stake in the outcome. If we kick them out of the room, it's all the easier for them walk across the aisle.
Edited because my prose sucked. Considering the massive sleep deficit I'm on, it probably still sucks. But hopefully not as much.
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Comments
I agree with you mostly, but the rhetorical sabotage needs to stop. The party needs to stand united on some issues, anyting else and its impossible to make headway.
Posted by: Sandals | Mar 7, 2005 7:17:10 PM
I don't think anybody ought to be drummed out of the party. We need everybody we can get. But, the days of DLC ideological and strategic domination are behind them. They had a good run. Nothing lasts forever.
Matt's point about factionalism also ignores the natural proclivity for organizations to give their workers designated titles and areas of authority. The republicans have to do it too. The problem is if you actually run the party as if it is a loose network of disparate interests instead of a tight organization with a common purpose.
The DLC is one of many groups that serves a purpose for the DNC, but as Ari Berman's article in The Nation points out, it has become a gold plated DC insider group and that gives it an outsized influence in the chattering classes and the very misleading impression that the prism through which they see things is the proper one. In my view they are stuck in a time warp.
That doesn't make them irrelevant to the party -- they are Democrats too --- but I do think that we have to keep tremendous pressure on politicians like Lieberman and others who are tempted to provide bi-partisan cover to the Republicans right now. It is their refusal to see the nature of the opposition and the battle they are waging that makes them dangerous.
Posted by: digby | Mar 7, 2005 7:53:26 PM
Ezra, here's my question about the DLC being the structure for conservative Democrats: what's the DLC's constituency? Unlike those groups you mentioned on the Republican side, the DLC is not a constituency-based organization, it's essentially a caucus created by Al From and funded with the table scraps of corporate America to produce corporate-friendly Democratic policies that will appeal to enough business types that Dems who spout the DLC policy nostrums on taxes and trade will avoid the wrath of "resonable" conservative business types. In the process they figured out some truths about rhetoric concerning crime and personal resposibility and talking directly to constituencies through the media (instead of working through their hierachies and speaking in code the way the Republicans do). But the DLC doesn't have any grass roots or activist structure. It's not even like a chamber of commerce. Instead, it's closer to GoPAC. They recruit up-and-coming politicos, give them some decent training and their version of Frank Luntz' phrase-book, and take in a few million dollars each year to fund the entire operation. And they're almost entirely a creature of Washington DC.
I've been involved in Michigan politics for about 15 years. Granted, we're as strong a union/fair trade state as you'll ever find, and in the eyes of the UAW, throughout the late 80's and early 90's being a DLC'er was the kiss of death in these parts. But still, I can't think of a single local or state event I've ever heard of the DLC conducting here, and we've been near or at ground zero in terms of being a highly targeted Presidential state in just about every single election since the 1960's.
I'm against purges, and I don't equate the DLC with a subversive organization that needs to be driven from the party and destroyed at its roots. But I don't see them as a organization that CLAIMS to represent a constituency, but as far as I can tell does not.
Posted by: DHinMI | Mar 7, 2005 8:11:34 PM
To start, I don't think anyone here is calling for a purge, and I don't mean to suggest otherwise. But I think many of us find the DLC anachronistic, and sometimes plain counterproductive, and wish they'd hurry up and fold. It's my feeling that, constituency or non, they've created a label that conservative Dems can wear. That allows them to stay in the party with less dissonance -- if "New Democrat" can easily explain why they're committed to a party of gay-lovers and troop-haters (and, make no mistake, there are more than a few communities where that's considered our M.O), more power to them because, in the end, it's more power for us. I'd like to see the DLC, then, become more of an umbrella organization that seeks to represent the interests of a certain stripe of Democrat. Whether their folks will agree with us every day of the week is irrelevant -- they wouldn't anyway. But by keeping them invested in the party (can't change the structure if everybody hates you), we can whip them into line when it's needed.
And in that, I agree with Digby. Massive pressure is now needed to keep our right flank from providing Bush cover. I'm a big fan of creating a netroots-based fund full of pledges to donate to primary challengers for defecting Democrats. Fill that coffer with two or three hundred thousand, and most pols, particularly congressional ones, will think twice about stepping off the reservation. But that's why i think we need the DLC -- so long as these guys have a Democratic-based label to fall under, they're ppart of the whole. And with our left flank ascendant and our party out of power, defection is a real possibility, worth guarding against vigiliantly. I see the DLC as part of that effort, even if they don't see themselves that way.
Posted by: Ezra | Mar 7, 2005 8:41:55 PM
Oh please. I can't believe you're making a case for those creeps.
Posted by: John H. Farr | Mar 7, 2005 10:43:03 PM
Okay. Maybe some people want a purge...
Posted by: Ezra | Mar 7, 2005 10:53:45 PM
Ah well. Meant to add, FEWER WORDS, MORE PASSION!!! Your life is probably too easy now. You're young, in love, and your whole life is ahead of you, maybe. (I felt that way too until maybe yesterday. It comes and goes.)
Personally though, I'm beyond cynicism. America is being *raped.* What the diddlely-shit does the DLC have to do with anything that's relevant to that???
Anyway, who gives a fuck if they "defect"? I thought they had already. Bah.
Posted by: John H. Farr | Mar 7, 2005 10:57:13 PM
America is being *raped.* What the diddlely-shit does the DLC have to do with anything that's relevant to that???
Well, actually, quite a bit if that means a few more votes for a Democratic Speaker, a Democratic Senate Majority Leader and/or more people who feel comfortable identifying themselves as Democrats and voting that way.
The DLC does need to quit seeking its own purge, and also stop claiming credit for the Clinton years. They also need to make sure that they don't provide cover for Bush. But Ezra is painting a picture of what they could be, and I pray that someone gets wind of this picture, somehow, and starts to make that happen at the DLC.
Posted by: Stephen | Mar 8, 2005 1:34:08 AM
The problem of the DLC is that the GOP of 2005 is radically different than the GOP of 1985.
Back in '85 the philosophy of the GOP had a lot going for it: A healthy skepticism of government. An unashamed appreciation for traditional institutions like the police and the military. A recognition of the efficiency of markets to allocate resources. A tradition of ecological conservatism stretching back to T.R.
Sure, there was an undercurrent of racism in the party. And the Reagan administration was thoroughly corrupt. But the idea of borrowing the good things from the GOP and marrying them to the traditional values of the Democrats seemed to make a hell of a lot of sense back in the late 1980s. I, for one, was certainly sold.
But flash forward to today. What of value is left in the GOP? It is a party that focuses on ideological purity and ignores empirical data. Why would anyone want to triangulate with what amounts to a cult?
Posted by: space | Mar 8, 2005 2:16:49 AM
Space -- that's the point of Digby's post. It's well work the read.
Posted by: Ezra | Mar 8, 2005 2:23:04 AM
Ezra,
I would agree with you circa 1995, when the New Democrat label really did provide important cover to Democrats running in inhospitable terrain. But that value is gone--in this last election we had candidates like Inez Tenenbaum and Brad Carson reluctant to even admit they supported John Kerry who still lost, and lost pretty badly. At the same time, we have Al From demanding that we all repeat his talking points or die. I'm not sure if he's serious, but the public environment that is so hostile to Democrats clearly laps it up. I would label it a self-fulfilling prophecy, except that we DO do as he demands and we still die.
As you said, these within-party Republican interest groups never go far off the reservation. On the other hand, the DLC and fellow travelers at the New Republic have often said "if Dems don't do x, they don't deserve to win".
And all of this talk dwells exclusively on politics and positioning--no mention of the DLC's actual policy record, which should be some indication of whether they're worth listening to. What have they supported in the Age of Bush? The Iraq War. And, as I think Josh Marshall pointed out recently, though it could have been someone else, in 1995 they expressly called for Democrats to move away from the New Deal and social security.
Posted by: Marshall | Mar 8, 2005 4:28:42 AM
Ezra,
As I think you now understand, my comment about purges wasn't directed at you but to differentiate my comments from those who do favor a purge.
RE: "New Democrat"--interesting that you used that term, because what you're suggesting would be helpful for conservative Democrats is already provided by NDN. It's essentially the DLC without the sectarian bullshit, less substance but better marketing. They provide a "brand" without the negative brand identity of the DLC.
As for the DLC itself, if Al From quit talking to the press or retired, they would probably cease to exist. There's no longer a need to "remake" the party in the way that there arguably was in 1987 or 1991. The Dem Congressional caucuses are more cohesive, and the Repubs, as Space points out, have moved so far to the right that it's not about dispeling the image of the Dems as too far left, our mandate is to make it sink in with the American electorate that the Repubs have moved that far to the right. Our task is not the internally-directed reorganization and re-imaging of the Dems circa 1990, it's the externally-directed messaging and shaping of the political and rhetorical environment of the Repubs circa 1993. The DLC is still facing the wrong way.
I agree with you that there needs to be a "label" and a "comfort zone" for moderate-to-conservative Democrats. But the "DLC" brand is so damaged that I don't think it offers much of a solution. And almost every time Al From opens his mouth,that brand is further damaged.
Posted by: DHinMI | Mar 8, 2005 8:59:19 AM
hmm lets see where lieberman voted on gonzales. hmm with the republicans.
nuff said. they dont vote with the d's all the time and you will see your DLC in action once this bankruptcy bill comes up for vote.
lets see how many dems vote in line with dems. are you insane?
and when it comes down to it, its the vote that matters. and if they dont vote with the dems they dont vote with the dems. so screw that shite.
your utterly and completely wrong. DLC means Republican yes man just taking up space on the democratic aisle. It is like democrats going wrecklessly for big business.
its the legislation stupid.
Posted by: media in trouble | Mar 8, 2005 12:27:08 PM
The DLC is like the Libertarian party: They take credit for anything "good" that happens (Clinton) and claim that anything "bad" that happens (Bush, Congress in 1994, 2000, 2002, 2004) is the fault of not being "DLC enough".
An organization that claims all credit yet dodges all blame is not an honest organization -- nor an effective one. They can't learn from their mistakes because they believe they're not making any.
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