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March 30, 2005

Ideas of Cities

Duncan is right that Orange County isn't the uber-wealthy playground that the eponymous TV show portrays it as. What most people think of when they picture the county is Newport Beach, an enormously affluent community by the beach. They might also imagine Laguna Beach, where Dncan lived, and Laguna Hills. What they're not imagining is Buena Park or Fountain Valley, blue collar areas experiencing major immigrant influxes. Neither are they giving much thought to Westminster (almost entirely Vietnamese) or Santa Ana, where the residents speak only Spanish.

A similarly annoying phenomenon is at work in LA, where the word conjures up a specific stretch of Sunset Blvd. to most everyone. That the city possesses massive areas where immigrants pack themselves into little-regulated, little-noticed apartment buildings, has giant areas with a semi-suburban flavor seems unknown. Having dinner in the Ethiopian district and dessert in the Jewish area strikes people as the sort of thing you can only do in New York, despite the fact that the two, in LA, are mere miles from each other. It's a pity.

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Ezra, you misidentifying the real pity here: The fact that the OC was ever made or watched by anyone.

Such a pity, that is.

Posted by: Kate | Mar 30, 2005 2:29:58 PM

When I think of Orange County, I think of places like Yorba Linda and Brea, where every house looks exactly the same, same beige stucco, same red tile roof. Stripmalls as far as the eye can see.

Then I thank God that I grew up in San Gabriel/Temple City.

Posted by: Vladi G | Mar 30, 2005 2:59:38 PM

I think the 'mere miles' bit just about says it. And I say this having grown up in Dallas (which is just as much an exurban wasteland as LA or Atlanta) and having lived in real cities for a while also. The problem is that "that the city possesses massive areas where immigrants pack themselves into little-regulated, little-noticed apartment buildings, has giant areas with a semi-suburban flavor seems unknown" actually holds true for far too many of the residents of the 'city' as well. Because things are 'mere miles' from each other, and primarily accessible by first putting on that suit of armor we call car, people not only ignore each other politely, but are actually able to forget each other exist.

In other words it's much easier for people to ignore their poorer neighbors' problems when they don't go through them on the way to work every day. This does have an effect on the 'character' of a city. Ask yourself this: how many rich white folks actually go to the spanish speaking part of town to get good mexican food? Now contrast this to how many rich white folk in New York (or San Francisco, for that matter) DO go to chinatown to get good chinese food?

For the record, I am one of those rich white folk, and a few years ago when I first went home to Dallas after going away for a few years for college, I was shocked to discover "that the city possesses massive areas where immigrants pack themselves into little-regulated, little-noticed apartment buildings, has giant areas with a semi-suburban flavor". I mean that: it was a real psychological shock. I mean I always 'knew', somewhere in the back of my head that these 'parts of town' existed, but when I encountered their people, restaurants, etc... (as a result of new friends met at school), well, it opened my eyes to a lot of things about cities.

Well, enough rambling...

--dhw

Posted by: dhw | Mar 30, 2005 3:17:58 PM

I think the 'mere miles' bit just about says it. And I say this having grown up in Dallas (which is just as much an exurban wasteland as LA or Atlanta) and having lived in real cities for a while also. The problem is that "that the city possesses massive areas where immigrants pack themselves into little-regulated, little-noticed apartment buildings, has giant areas with a semi-suburban flavor seems unknown" actually holds true for far too many of the residents of the 'city' as well. Because things are 'mere miles' from each other, and primarily accessible by first putting on that suit of armor we call car, people not only ignore each other politely, but are actually able to forget each other exist.

In other words it's much easier for people to ignore their poorer neighbors' problems when they don't go through them on the way to work every day. This does have an effect on the 'character' of a city. Ask yourself this: how many rich white folks actually go to the spanish speaking part of town to get good mexican food? Now contrast this to how many rich white folk in New York (or San Francisco, for that matter) DO go to chinatown to get good chinese food?

For the record, I am one of those rich white folk, and a few years ago when I first went home to Dallas after going away for a few years for college, I was shocked to discover "that the city possesses massive areas where immigrants pack themselves into little-regulated, little-noticed apartment buildings, has giant areas with a semi-suburban flavor". I mean that: it was a real psychological shock. I mean I always 'knew', somewhere in the back of my head that these 'parts of town' existed, but when I encountered their people, restaurants, etc... (as a result of new friends met at school), well, it opened my eyes to a lot of things about cities.

Well, enough rambling...

--dhw

Posted by: dhw | Mar 30, 2005 3:17:58 PM

When I think of Orange County, I think of the wealthy conservative suburbs (Saddleback Valley) and the suburban planned community (Irvine). When I think of LA, I think of south-central and watts.

Posted by: aphrael | Mar 30, 2005 3:52:08 PM

I think that that's a phenomenon that's true of any large metropolitan area. Just like Ezra mentioned in an earlier post, when people say "New York" they don't mean Staten Island or Washington Heights, they're talking about Manhattan (unless it's crime related...) I live in Irvine, which is really the gateway to all the riches, and when people talk about Orange County, they really mean SOUTH Orange County, cities like Irvine, Newport Beach, Mission Viejo, Rancho Santa Margerita, San Clemente, etc etc.

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