October 07, 2007
It's The Nationalism, Stupid
Drill this into your head: The Iranians want the bomb not because they are Muslims, but because they are Iranians. That's why the atomic symbol is on the currency. That's why the rhetoric is about national pride. This isn't about a global caliphate, but about a nation's arrival into the pantheon of powers. And America's recipe for a deterrence is insane. We're implacably opposed to Iran's nuclear ambitions, and rather than give them the root respect they want as we try and convince them to bargain away the security and symbolism of atomic weapons, we're demanding their total submission to our preferences before we even sit down for negotiations. We have set, as the precondition for their disarmament, their humiliation. This will not disarm them.
"we're demanding their total submission to our preferences before we even sit down for negotiations. We have set, as the precondition for their disarmament, their humiliation. This will not disarm them"
I don't think it is about us.
National pride & competition in relation to whom? Iran does like have exonomic relations, histories, futures with its more immediate neighbors.
"Our preferences" We're doing the "humiliating?" Iran understands quite well who we work for. Psst...it isn't Israel.
"Islamic bomb"? We shouldn't completely discount rivalries for religious and sectarian leadership in an area still pretty pious. Henry VIII/Mary/Elizabeth I and Gustavus Adolphus did believe some of their own bullshit.
Posted by: bob mcmanus | Oct 7, 2007 5:44:48 PM
It's difficult to distinguish between nationalism and piety when talking about the iranian government. The vision of the iranian revolution was to establish iran as a tool of the faith, when an iranian official talks about iran or islam he is very often talking about the other simultaneously.
That said, I dont think the new yorker article sheds much light on anything anyway.
Posted by: pimp hand strikes! | Oct 8, 2007 3:51:55 AM
when an iranian official talks about iran or islam he is very often talking about the other simultaneously.
And wouldn't that convenient for the ignorant?
Posted by: pseudonymous in nc | Oct 8, 2007 7:24:44 PM
Were you there at the big Quds day rally? I guess they were just seeking respect and their place in the sun when they rounded up crowds to scream "death to America", "death to Israel." It was quite a nice event. Great weather, snacks for the kids, and the crowd baying for the extermination of millions. good times.
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