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August 22, 2007

New Ideas

By Ezra, Who's Not At The Beach Because Ro De Janeiro Decided to Rain on Him.

One quick addendum to the no-new-ideas-needed argument: The press corps, which doesn't get paid based on their familiarity with the world of policy proposals, really isn't looking for "New Ideas." Social Security privatization, the "New Idea" around which the Chait piece and this whole conversation originally took place had, after all, been kicking around Cato since the 70s. Chile had implemented it decades prior. It just seemed new to the press.

Indeed, the word new" is actually muddling the conversation a bit. What the press is interested in is better described as "fresh." It could be an idea they haven't heard. Or it could be an old idea that's more radical than they're used to. Or demonstrates an approach they weren't expecting. Or is sold in a way they haven't grown inured to. John Edwards got a lot of press for a health care plan that wasn't in any sense new thinking, but which was expansive enough to seem worthy of buzz. Bush got his new idea cred for an old, bad idea that was unsettlingly radical, and which his administration kept selling as new. The difference between a new idea and an old idea is largely good press management*. And Democrats do need to get better at that.

*The corollary to this is that a new idea is what the press says it is, and so there are certain ideas they don't like and will bash as old thinking simply because it's an easy attack. For instance, anything that makes the welfare state more, rather than less, expansive, will probably be derided by Robert Samuelson and Sebastian Mallaby as old, industrial age, thinking. Not much to be done about that.

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Ezra,

Using the word new - whether merited or not - is an old marketing ploy.

As for the weather in A Cidade Maravilhosa, there's lots of things to do: go to a mall and people watch. Visit the Museo dos Índios in Botafogo or the Carmen Miranda Museum not far from there.

Posted by: Randy Paul | Aug 22, 2007 12:04:08 PM

Social Security privatization...had, after all, been kicking around Cato since the 70s. Chile had implemented it decades prior.
I had to read this a couple of times to figure out that it was just ambiguous, not wrong; as worded, it looks like you're saying Chile had implemented privatization a couple of decades prior to the 70s.

Posted by: Tom Hilton | Aug 22, 2007 12:16:07 PM

Not much to be done about that.

About just Mallaby and Samuelson, or the whole damn press corps? It's pretty damn depressing if it's really the latter.

Posted by: Antid Oto | Aug 22, 2007 12:54:35 PM

You forgot an important part of the second paragraph:

"Or it supports the conservative agenda."

Posted by: mickslam | Aug 22, 2007 1:13:09 PM

Second Oto. Your last sentence is wrong. It is, in fact, why the netroots as such exists, why Glenn Greenwald has a job, why Media Matters was founded, etc. Not much to be done about Samuelson and Mallaby, in particular, but a great deal to be done about the general and totally fallacious economic wisdom bandied about as fact among American journalists.

Posted by: jhupp | Aug 22, 2007 1:15:42 PM

It may be time for Ezra to step away from the pooter - at its heart there's a semantic discussion here of how Americans use the word "new" I think that several people have already pointed out, and that's never really going to be solved. Strictly speaking, there aren't a lot of "new" ideas out there; but our culture - partly from advertising, partly from our endless attempts at reinvention generally - has a fetish for the word. For a long time, conservatives seemed more animated by attacking Great Society programs, but lately - like SS privatization - they've gone back to the one that really bugs them, the New Deal (both approaches strike me, in the long run, as fool's errands, since these things really have become pretty essential to our national fabric). If we're really going to get a new idea, it would be a far larger shift in thinking than arguing over old programs and their financing. I think the problem is that politicians give a lot of buildup to a "new idea" that isn't... and that just pisses reporters - trained to write about new new new - off and makes them that much more critical. The real "new ideas" are far more dangerous, and may not have much real curb appeal. If they did, I suspect Dennis Kucinich, for one thing, would look a lot stronger in his Presidential bid than he does now.

Posted by: weboy | Aug 22, 2007 1:57:39 PM

For instance, anything that makes the welfare state more, rather than less, expansive, will probably be derided by Robert Samuelson and Sebastian Mallaby as old, industrial age, thinking. Not much to be done about that.

Nor is there any compelling reason to try to do anything about it. There's no reason to rule out this kind of objection, which has its place. It can be dealt with as needed by pointing out how it differs from old thinking, if it does, and why that matters.

Posted by: Sanpete | Aug 22, 2007 2:35:52 PM

Bizarre. Here in São Paulo is hot and sunny... :P It´s difficult to find a cloud in the sky...

I think that the best place in Rio is Cinelândia. Beaches you find anywhere, but there is no such place like Biblioteca Nacional, o Museu Nacional de Belas Artes and the Teatro Muncipal, both of them together.

Posted by: André Kenji | Aug 23, 2007 12:19:44 AM

The media obsession with "new ideas" is one of pet peeves. My basic position is, there are no new ideas! For almost every policy question, there generally is one really old idea, vs. a second, somewhat less old idea (often in several variants).

The most basic demarcation of "old idea" vs. "somewhat less old idea" is the one between unrestrained capitalism vs. an economy that is more regulated and redistributionist (and which can take any one of a number of forms, from communism to socialism to a mixed economy to the kind of lightly regulated capitalism we have in the U.S.).

Another example: patriarchy vs. feminism. Patriarchy is really, really old idea. Feminism is newer but even so is showing its age (I personal regard the birth of feminism as being the publication of Mary Wollstonecraft's A Vindication of the Rights of Women in 1792, but that's very much open to argument).

You can jazz up the old ideas, and the slightly less old ideas, with new bells and whistles, of course. For example: universal health insurance is an old idea (though not as old as the alternative). You can create lots of different universal health care systems, and it can come in lots of forms, from single-payer to Hillarycare, but at heart it's the same, basic, old idea.

What most of these questions come down to is power aggregating to the hands of the few vs. that power being shared and accruing to the many. That's the basic differentiation. Calling an idea "new" is just a brand, a way of trying to make it sound cool and modern and shiny. The only truly "new" part might be some of the technical features of how you're going to implement the idea. But not, in reality, the idea itself.

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