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May 29, 2007

PSA

It's come to my attention that Fred Jones recently forwarded the comments of one (and only one) commenter to the FBI for being too, in Jones' judgment, anti-American. A couple of changes of policy as a result:

1) Fred is done on the site, of course. But banning software is imperfect because IPs can be changed, so it may end up meaning various posts have to be deleted at the end of each day. I'd ask for help in this, and for folks to ignore provocation as I work out the kinks.

2) This site, generally speaking, is supposed to be a safe place for discussion, where even comments critical of American can be aired. But it is a public forum, and the comment sections have a lot of readers who don't post. Don't say anything that you think could get you in trouble. If you do see comments that unsettle you, e-mail me and we'll figure something out.

May 29, 2007 | Permalink

Comments

Fred is done. Dissent is crushed.

Collectivists, you can now speak freely.

Posted by: Stuart Browning | May 29, 2007 3:26:42 PM

Fred is done. Dissent is crushed.

Right. Fred tries to intimidate someone by reporting them to the FBI but Ezra is the one who's "crushing dissent." If fact, Fred tried to intimidate everyone on the thread by claiming that if they didn't denounce the poster in question they were complicit.

Come back when you have something intelligent to say.

Posted by: W.B. Reeves | May 29, 2007 3:35:54 PM

I didn't ask or complain in any way. Fred is Ezra's decision, and I am not even going to comment on it.
Mr Reeves took me to task on phrasing, and specific targets or actual exhortations to violence were not there, nor intended, save in a "Death to Capitalism!" sense.

I doubt that it will happen, but you cannot imagine my excitement on getting a feeble knock. On the one hand, my secret identity will be blown, but I will be all over the net, maybe get on Ophrah, a book deal, a chance on American Idol...I can barely contain myself.

I am not getting a haircut.

Posted by: bob mcmanus | May 29, 2007 3:50:23 PM

Could someone post a link to the comment thread so we can all see the drama? It seems strange to me that such a dramatic moment would happen on this particular blog, and I'd like to see it.

Posted by: NonyNony | May 29, 2007 3:59:32 PM

Fred's been banned. Where have I heard that before?

Posted by: nolo | May 29, 2007 4:05:15 PM

Wait a second, Jones turned in Bob to the FBI? That's spectacular. I bet some poor sap at the FBI now has to devote himself to googling and reading all of Bob's comments.

Bob --

You should totally address your presumed FBI stalker at intervals; preferably while saying really inflammatory stuff.

Posted by: LizardBreath | May 29, 2007 4:09:11 PM

Ask and ye shall receive.

http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2007/05/unlearning_help.html

Posted by: W.B. Reeves | May 29, 2007 4:11:04 PM

I stopped reading Pandagon a while back, his trolling annoyed me so.

Posted by: sangfroid826 | May 29, 2007 4:14:40 PM

Bob, although you seem to be cut from the Huffington Post cloth, you also seem to fit in well here at young collectivist Klein's blog. I'll be sure to inform my readers of your revealing rant. What fun.

Posted by: Stuart Browning | May 29, 2007 4:18:33 PM

Bob, congrats. That is pretty awesome.

Give it a while and then FOIA your FBI file, just for kicks.

Posted by: Sifu Tweety | May 29, 2007 4:19:08 PM

wow!

that's quite hilarious/disturbing.

Posted by: Korha | May 29, 2007 4:26:31 PM

Bob, although you seem to be cut from the Huffington Post cloth, you also seem to fit in well here at young collectivist Klein's blog. I'll be sure to inform my readers of your revealing rant. What fun.

It seems you like to play intimidation games as well, young master Browning.

Posted by: W.B. Reeves | May 29, 2007 4:30:51 PM

Wait, you mean someone hasn't reported bob to the FBI already? I could be wrong, but wasn't he, you know, a hippie?

Posted by: SEK | May 29, 2007 4:32:25 PM

Oh thank god, I thought it might be me. :)

Just for the record, I will miss Fred. But not that much.

Posted by: weboy | May 29, 2007 4:34:43 PM

Go Bob!

Posted by: Jackmormon | May 29, 2007 4:38:21 PM

Man, and I actually spent five minutes the other day responding to a comment by that Stasi troll. Boy do I feel stupid!

Posted by: josephdietrich | May 29, 2007 4:41:44 PM

Did the FBI actually come in with a warrant and/or subpoena and take the IP address records?

If so, I would think that fairness would require the site proprietor to forward to Bob the IP address records for Fred in case Bob should desire to file a complaint and/or lawsuit alleging a conspiracy to violate First Amendment rights.

Cranky

Posted by: Cranky Observer | May 29, 2007 4:42:35 PM

By the way - that's quite a thread there. I'm kinda glad I passed that thread by...

Posted by: weboy | May 29, 2007 4:44:04 PM

I've passed on some excerpts from Mr. MacManus' rant to Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs.

You may have alot of company here soon boys.

Posted by: Stuart Browning | May 29, 2007 4:45:16 PM

The FBI is the least of your problems, Bob! Browning's got a jazz guitarist on the case!

Posted by: Sifu Tweety | May 29, 2007 4:50:41 PM

You may have alot of company here soon boys.

I don't know about the rest of you but I'm trembling in my boots.

Interesting how young master Browning, the wannabe right wing Michael Moore, denounces everyone here as "collectivist". Evidently, his definition of collectivist doesn't extend to informers for the state's political police aparatus. Neither does it prevent him from engaging in the cyber equivilant of mob incitement.

Such a sterling example of individualist integrity.

Posted by: W.B. Reeves | May 29, 2007 4:56:44 PM

I've passed on some excerpts from Mr. MacManus' rant to Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs.

You may have alot of company here soon boys.

Posted by: Stuart Browning

LOL. I don't know if this apparent allergy to self-awareness is a spoof, but I hope not.

A propos of nothing, the American people support the war in Iraq, Bush keeps telling us!

Posted by: Cyrus | May 29, 2007 4:57:53 PM

Stuart Browning has been associated with Paula Abdul, Angelina Jolie, and Vanna White, so he's a man to be feared. He puts out reliable winger agitprop on health care too.

Posted by: John Emerson | May 29, 2007 5:13:55 PM

Stuart Browning has been associated with Paula Abdul, Angelina Jolie, and Vanna White, so he's a man to be feared.

He puts out reliable winger agitprop on health care too.
He seems to work mostly for the Association of Health Underwriters.

Posted by: John Emerson | May 29, 2007 5:15:46 PM

As a reminder, Fred is the person who published my home and work information, harassed my employers, and left hints of violence against me and my home in the comments at Pandagon.

Posted by: Amanda Marcotte | May 29, 2007 5:21:43 PM

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