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May 01, 2007
"Conciliation" or "Persuasion"?
By Ankush
I had high hopes for Larissa MacFarquhar's profile of Barack Obama, but ultimately I don't think it breaks much, if any, ground: What you get is the requisite (if interesting) personal history, the commentary on Obama's mostly reserved demeanor on the campaign trail, and -- the centerpiece of this profile -- much ado about his interest in consensus-building.
But can you really call someone a "conciliator" (as the title of the profile does) if you pay so little attention to the man's actual policy positions? MacFarquhar mentions that Obama publicly advocated removing the troop withdrawal timetable from the Iraq supplemental in the event of a Bush veto, and that he has "one of the most liberal" voting records in the Senate, but that's basically it.
If your thesis, however, is that Obama pursues consensus as an end in itself, you really do need to identify specific issues on which he has compromised or demonstrated his willingness to compromise. You need to try to substantively answer the question of whether the rhetoric is designed to draw people from both parties to some sort of middle ground (which isn't the same thing as the true political "center") or whether it's designed to draw people to his positions. If it's the latter, then a better word than "conciliation" is probably "persuasion." It will only seem like conciliation if you wish he were further to the left than he actually is.
Absent that sort of inquiry, these pieces are basically filled with airy quotes -- from his book, from people who know him from law school, and from the leisurely interviews with which he appears to be rather generous. TNR's Isaac Chotiner, for instance, writes:
The worrying thing about the piece for Obama fans is that his thirst for consensus and unity ("One America") comes across as less a way to pragmatically achieve good policies than as a misplaced need for consensus as an end in itself.
I agree that's how he "comes across," except that in the absence of much policy detail, you're in no position to evaluate whether that impression -- the one MacFarquhar is passing along to you, not one that you're passively receiving from nowhere -- is accurate or not.
It's time for more reporters to start moving this story forward, rather than playing into the storyline (consciously or not) that Obama lacks substance. Read his white papers; ask him about how his positions differentiate him from the Republican field and from his Democratic contenders; and then try to figure out whether his positions represent the maximal goals he would like to achieve or whether they're simply what he thinks he can achieve without offending too many people. It's not that difficult.
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"But can you really call someone a "conciliator" (as the title of the profile does) if you pay so little attention to the man's actual policy positions?"
How can you pay attention to something that isn't there?
Posted by: Petey | May 2, 2007 1:05:24 AM
I get it Petey. You ironically point to Obama's lack of substance by posting a comment with no real substance of its own. Funny joke.
But this is precisely the problem. People allude to his propensity to compromise the bad way: give up important values in the name of some kind of Broderian bipartisanship. And this is opposed to the more genuine kind of bipartisanship where you take someone you generally disagree with (say Lugar or Coburn) and work together on something you happen to agree on (nuclear non-proliferation or making government spending more transparent to the public). No sacrifice of values, just a real meeting of minds.
Yet, precious little evidence is ever provided that Obama does the former rather than the later. Or at the very least, no one has demonstrated that he is particularly worse off in that respect compared to the legislative records of, ahem, other candidates. In fact, there seems to me oodles of evidence that Obama has gotten quite a bit done to make people's lives better by being committed to the later.
Posted by: Patrick | May 2, 2007 2:50:21 AM
Good point, Ankush.
Posted by: Sanpete | May 2, 2007 4:15:46 AM
If you examine Obama's legislative record in the Illinois legislature and his campaigns there and compare them to his current statements and positions, you could quite easily tag him as a flip-flopper. I'm sure if he gets the nomination, all those old statements will get the Rovian treatment so we should look at the record now.
Posted by: Chuck | May 2, 2007 9:30:11 AM
Similar to Ezra's skeptism of Obama's healthcare position in your link, his position on global warming is essentially McCain-Lieberman (per Matt Yglesias), which is again points to a conciliator more than a persuader. Al Gore is the model of a persuader here.
I think voting records may be less revealing of a potential President's actions than is generally held. As a legislator you have two options, Yea or Nay, a President should set the agenda and actually push the range of acceptable positions in one direction or the other. The question about Obama is whether he will push the agenda far enough, not will he since a compehensive global warming bill/ if it arrives on his desk.
Posted by: AJ | May 2, 2007 11:58:53 AM
If you examine Obama's legislative record in the Illinois legislature and his campaigns there and compare them to his current statements and positions, you could quite easily tag him as a flip-flopper.
I'd love to examine Obama's Illinois record. It's easy to track down his speeches, his votes and the bills he's sponsored since he became Senator (through the thomas.gov, senate.gov and nytimes "topic" sites), but I don't know of anything similar for Illinois.
Do you know of any online resources for his time in the State Senate?
Posted by: Mikef | May 2, 2007 12:43:55 PM
I thought the New Yorker piece was very good. It does break new ground on someone who's already been very extensively profiled. And it's persuasive. Andrew Sullivan had an interesting point on his blog, where he said Obama is not a "conservative-by-idealogy," but a "conservative-by-temperment." That's precisely what the New Yorker piece is about, I think, and so it's appropriate that it's a personal study of Obama instead of a policy study. Put "The Conciliator" along with the oppositely-titled "The Agitator," Ryan Lizza's piece for The New Republic on Obama's years as a community organizer, and it's fascinating how the two portrayals are at once different yet highly similar.
It's the connundrum of Barack Obama: a man of many worlds, many tensions and many contradictions. A concilitator, an agitator, a persuader, something else entirely? A transformational candidate, or more of the same? An idealogue or a politican? Who knows? Perhaps he doesn't know, himself. Above all I think he's a pragmatist, a realist in the best tradition of Lincoln.
Obama stands on the ground.
Posted by: Korha | May 2, 2007 2:00:08 PM
The problem is that Obama's relatively slight experience doesn't lend itself to the type of analysis that is being suggested. He basically started running for president before he had even served two years in the Senate, so the bulk of his record comes from the state senate, but you really have to wonder how much you can really analogize from what someone did in a state legislature to what they'll do as president. The context is so completely different it's hard to regard the former as having much predictive value with respect to the latter. George W. Bush was apparently "bi-partisan" as governor of Texas; not so much as president.
I'm not trying to knock Obama; personally, I don't think "experience" matters very much at all for presidential candidates, because there's no experience that really resembles being the head of state for the most powerful country in the world. (Or, if there is, it's not the kind of experience candidates ever have - e.g., maybe Sec. of State, or something, but not Senator or governor.)
So to a large extent with Obama, you basically have to just look at what he says he'll do as president. It's true that conciliation language isn't that troublesome if it's just a means of persuasion. George W. Bush was "a uniter, not a divider," but obviously that was sheer window dressing. But when Democratic candidates use that kind of language, the worry among some of the party faithful is that they actually mean it. That will be the crucial issue here. If Obama wants to talk nice, that's fine, but if he gets the presidency and a workable Democratic majority in Congress, bringing Republicans into the fold should be pretty damn low on the priority list.
Posted by: Jason | May 2, 2007 2:00:25 PM
Thanks for the comments. A few points in response...
"How can you pay attention to something that isn't there?"
His public statements (save for his recent foreign policy address) do appear to be light on substance. But so what? A good political journalist doesn't stop at public statements. He has white papers; he gives interviews; he has advisers. The man is running for President. It can't be the case that he doesn't have policy positions; reporters may just have to dig a little deeper to get at them.
"I thought the New Yorker piece was very good. It does break new ground on someone who's already been very extensively profiled. And it's persuasive. Andrew Sullivan had an interesting point on his blog, where he said Obama is not a "conservative-by-idealogy," but a "conservative-by-temperment." That's precisely what the New Yorker piece is about...."
As I remarked to someone via email, I think MacFarquhar's dissection of consensus as a political virtue is deft and impressive -- a critical element that's missing from lesser pieces about Obama that cover the same sort of territory. The problem is that before you get to talking about someone's interest in consensus and its virtues, you need some sort of grasp on his actual policy commitments and their relationship to consensus. You need to understand, for instance, whether Obama gravitates toward consensus positions (in which case I can think of less chartiable terms than "conciliator"), whether he uses points of policy convergence between competing ideologies to leverage greater gains for liberal causes, and so forth. There's a whole piece of the puzzle missing in these discussions about Obama before you even get to the point of extolling (or debating) the wonders of consensus-building or incrementalism.
"The problem is that Obama's relatively slight experience doesn't lend itself to the type of analysis that is being suggested.... So to a large extent with Obama, you basically have to just look at what he says he'll do as president."
Agreed. It's imperfect, to be sure, but it's something.
Posted by: Ankush | May 2, 2007 2:47:47 PM
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