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March 29, 2007
The new CW and the old
By Brian Beutler
No one has seemed more surprised by the Democrats’ success in pushing an exit strategy for Iraq than the Democrats.
Their aggressiveness and unity on a major foreign-policy challenge to the president is a striking change for a party that has, on many occasions over many years, seemed to be on the defensive on national security issues.
In fact, for much of the post-Vietnam era, the Republican advantage on those issues has been a defining feature of American politics. Many Democrats felt they needed to prove, again and again, that their party was tough enough to defend the nation’s interests — to fight the notion, often stoked by Republicans, that Democrats were the party of George McGovern and the nuclear freeze.
My immediate instinct when reading media analyses of the national security policies of the two main parties is to cringe. But these lead paragraphs sound about right, and seem to imply that Democrats are beginning to feel more sure footed about the revolutionary idea that "defending the nation's interests" does not necessarily require being "tough enough".
That's not to say that the change is permanent. It's easy to be unified against something as bloody (and as unpopular) as the Iraq war. It's a fact that seems to embolden analysts into suggesting that, to maintain their advantage, Democrats should invent problems that require toughness so that they can solidify their foreign policy bona fides:
The broader question is whether the war forges an enduring change in the Democratic Party, its stance and its credibility on national security. Many strategists are already warning that over the long haul, it is not enough to be antiwar: the Democrats need a strong, affirmative vision of foreign policy.
“If getting out of Iraq defines entirely who the Democrats are on national security, then over the long run, it will be a disaster,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder of Third Way, a moderate Democratic group. Rather, Iraq needs to be part “of a larger strategy aimed at showing how to protect America’s national security interests,” he said.
Fortunately the author of this article helps offset Bennett's bullshit with some more sophisticated insights from Gary Hart. For those insights, click the link. But really: the suggestion that it will be disastrous for Democrats if they succeed in extricating us from the howling chaos of Iraq is absurd. The idea that, to forestall that disaster, the Democrats should...I dunno...plan to invade Iran is dangerous. And the fact that a think tank like Third Way has any traction with the Democratic party on foreign policy is astonishing.
Cross posted at Brian Beutler
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Comments
“It’s just not fair to say that people who voted for the resolution wanted war,” the former president said last week.
Shorter Clinton:"She was just triangulating as I did."
So, when she get elected, and she will if Obama is the VP candidate, she will get up every morning and put a wet finger in the air.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Mar 29, 2007 9:13:13 AM
Fred, seeing as how Barack Obama and Hillary are not too fond of each other why does people like you insist on making him her vp? For one, he is anti DLC. She is the posterchild for it. Anyway, Obama will win the nomination.
I think if the democrats were strong and tough on issues, domestic as well as the war, then the wimp image would not hang around.
Nancy Pelosi has pulled off the impossible and can herd cats and Reid has shown himself to be wily against the gop. The fact that the dems are not backing down and standing up to Bush and giving as good as they get makes them look smart and tough. You don't have to be a war monger to be tough.
Posted by: vwcat | Mar 29, 2007 9:38:14 AM
vwcat, For the sake of clarity it should be recogized that it's not just people like Fred who are positing a Clinton-Obama run. It makes a crude electoral sense. You wed Clinton's institutional heft to Obama's ability to excite voters. Can you think of any combination of the current crop of potential GOP candidates that could match that team up?
Is the idea anything other than a pipe dream? I don't really have an opinion on that except to say that I wouldn't assume that the DLC connection precludes it. The DLC, rightly or wrongly, remains a faction within the Democratic Party and one that represents some significant interests. There wouldn't be anything unprecedented in having the standard bearers of differing factions heading up a unity ticket. Particularly if 2008 shapes up as a national crisis election.
Personally, I'm not interested in a return to the politics of triangulation but I don't think my perspective is shared by many of the party aparatchiki.
Posted by: WB Reeves | Mar 29, 2007 10:03:43 AM
The keys to this transformation are found in the roots of the last transformations, Nixon's Silent Majority and Gingrich's savage re-organization of the House.
Nixon's Southern Strategy, as extended by Reagan, made the Republicans the Party of the White South. But, Nixon's Silent Majority and the resentments it exploited between idealistic, upper class liberals and the white, working class, also did lasting damage to the Democratic coalition. Just last year, in an interview with the American Prospect, Chuck Schumer was still grousing about his resentment against liberal anti-war types -- this is 35 years later, folks!
Week after week, month after month, the polls continue to show about 55% of the country deeply unhappy with Bush and the Republicans. Not a little unhappy -- there are another 10-15% or so telling pollsters they are kind of, sort of unhappy with Bush -- and some of those 10% are no doubt unhappy that Bush is not a bigger fool than he is. But, 55% don't like Bush, and are emphatic about it; and this is before the economy enters a crater.
The really significant thing about the Democrats coming together on their Iraq funding bill is that they did not bother seeking out much Republican support. (They will get crucial Republican support in the Senate, but don't need much and won't have to do much to get it; in the House, they simply do not care.) This is an earth-shattering seimsic shift in American politics.
Posted by: Bruce Wilder | Mar 29, 2007 12:12:58 PM
the suggestion that it will be disastrous for Democrats if they succeed in extricating us from the howling chaos of Iraq is absurd
Actually not absurd at all. What's absurd is the pony the Democratic leadership claims is under all the shit in Iraq, if we'll just leave and let them "stand up" for themselves. (We'll even give them a shovel.) It isn't absurd at all that when Americans see the mass slaughter and regional instability that follows a withdrawal that they'll turn on those who misled them about the outcome.
The liberal blogosphere is giving the Democratic leadership a pass on what's either abysmal and irresponsible ignorance or intentional lying. The screaming about the deceptions used to get us into this war still hasn't abated, but not a peep about the deceptions, including the self-deceptions, being used to get us out. We're not so much better after all.
Posted by: Sanpete | Mar 29, 2007 2:45:33 PM
Sanpete, I know this won't come as a surprise to you but I find the moral calculus you employ to draw an equivilancy between those who got us into this war and those who are trying to get us out to be wildly off the mark.
Posted by: WB Reeves | Mar 29, 2007 3:11:19 PM
Appologies. That should read as "widely" not "wildly".
Posted by: WB Reeves | Mar 29, 2007 3:17:11 PM
WBR, you're definitely right in respect to the magnitude of offenses. But I think parallel is accurate in regard to type of offense, as well as the importance of the issue.
Posted by: Sanpete | Mar 29, 2007 3:25:03 PM
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Posted by: judy | Sep 27, 2007 3:03:24 AM



