November 07, 2006
Voter Suppression In Action
Here's how they're doing it. This is a genuine, recorded call from this morning:
November 7, 2006 | Permalink
This is a genuine, recorded call from this morning:
How do we know that? Hell, I could record something and send it around the blogosphere. Big deal
This seems to be the same ol' "We wuz robbed" without and evidence used in all of the past elections that the Dems have lost only this time, they're starting the dance early.
Yeah, when they win, it's always "The people have spoken" and there is no talk of Diebold, suppression, etc., but when they lose, it's a different story.
You guys need to grow up.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Nov 7, 2006 11:24:21 AM
The FBI is investigating this. What's so stupid is that one Republican operative is going to jail in NH for voter suprression, Rahm has said they will pursue the fullest civil action this time against the republicans-which means if they win they could bankrupt the national party because in some places the offense amounts to 500/call.
Posted by: akaison | Nov 7, 2006 11:30:12 AM
Right. Rather then treat reports of malfeasance with any weight, we need to "grow up." Any evidence that this is a hoax, Fred? There've been pretty consistent reports of similar phone calls in different districts across the country. Are you suggesting some sort of conspiracy?
Posted by: Tim | Nov 7, 2006 11:53:05 AM
Not to mention that there are already RNC officials convicted and doing time for this kind of crap.
Best retort I've heard about these calls was an elderly woman saying "well they can come arrest me damn it, I'm going to vote!".
Posted by: sprocket | Nov 7, 2006 11:59:59 AM
Posted by: Fred Jones | Nov 7, 2006 8:24:21 AM How do we know that? Hell, I could record something and send it around the blogosphere. Big deal
But I believe that sometime before the time he had to talk to the FBI, Fred Jones would wimp out. This is for real, and Fred Jones has provided you with your sample Republican talking point, so forewarned is forearmed.
Posted by: BruceMcF | Nov 7, 2006 12:01:21 PM
I certainly agree that this behavior is wrong, and I support prosecution for anyone who is behind it.
Posted by: Dave Justus | Nov 7, 2006 12:17:11 PM
WMAL Radio in DC this AM. A staff member from the Chris Core(sp?) show this morning was told by Democrat operatives outside of his polling place in MD that the polls were closed, he should go home.
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 12:21:39 PM
No, not the one about not being able to vote in bars any more, this is the whiteout deal.
Another evil Rove plot: demand straight ticket Democrat voting inside the polling place.
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 12:26:33 PM
I'm with you, Guy. Isn't it disgusting when the national organizations of the Democratic Party mount a nationwide coordinated effort to suppress the vote by having people outside polling places tell random people that the polls are closed? Now, I'm mystified why this "staffer" was heading to the polls with an "I'm a Republican!" shirt on, since otherwise how the hell did the "Democrat operatives" know his party affiliation? Too bad no "Republic operatives" outside his polling place were setting people straight that, yes, people were going in and out of the polling place, and coming out with "I voted" stickers, because the polls were open.
But other than that, this lame, unsupported anecdote is exactly the same as a countrywide robocall effort financed by the NRCC. A pox on both their houses.
Now, Red State, on the other hand, is above reproach. Ooooh, "individuals" are demanding that people vote straight Democrat. At gunpoint, inside the voting booth, I'll bet. But at least the RNC is "on the way" to replace all those Republican poll watchers that the "Democrat" party killed in Philadelphia. Oh, if only the Washington Post were as avidly pursuing this as they did the robocalling thuggery, they could soon have the credibility of Red State and Slashdot. Thanks, Guy!
Posted by: mds | Nov 7, 2006 12:39:15 PM
The radio employee quoted the Dem. staffers as saying "he is driving a Cadillac, he must be Republican".
Yes, this attitude is as puzzling to me as to anybody else who pays any attention in the beltway.
I suspect, if you really are interested that Chris will be talking about it again tomorrow.
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 12:45:06 PM
Oh, hang on, I'm sorry I might have unfairly sounded sarcastic about Red State in my previous post. The hat-tip for the lead on crazed Philly Democrats butchering Republican voters with machetes, or whatever, goes to a commenter on... Little Green Footballs. That's even more unimpeachable.
Perhaps Philadelphia will learn from this Democrat vote-stuffing riot, and follow Connecticut and upstate New York in having multiple copies of the voting rolls on hand. Oh, wait, the white-out was in a Super Soaker. There was nothing that could stop it.
Posted by: mds | Nov 7, 2006 12:46:24 PM
Ezra and Fred,
Maybe the recorded call is fake but accurate?
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 12:50:06 PM
Any evidence that this is a hoax, Fred?
You are asking me to prove a negative. I was asking you for evidence of a postive.
The bottom line is, as you said, this is under investigation....and let's be clear, there are cheaters on both sides and cheating is unacceptable.....PERIOD!
Above all, I want fair elections more than wanting my preferred candidates to win. I hope you all feel the same. The integrity of the system is worth more than anyone's victory.
Just don't jump the gun and believe any of this is a fact until it is determined to be so. Even *I* gave Clinton the benefit of the doubt until he was proven to be the liar.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Nov 7, 2006 12:53:35 PM
Maybe the recorded call is fake but accurate?
Maybe they can rely, once again on "the seriousness of the charge" and fuck any needed evidence...
Posted by: Fred Jones | Nov 7, 2006 12:54:53 PM
Wait, I know what makes the dead voters a fair tactic. The Dems have to make up for the possibility that Republicans are doing somthing like this.
[checks watch] Isn't it time for the thunder storms that melt Democrat turnout but not Republican turnout?
Someone get the pestilence going!
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 12:58:53 PM
You are asking me to prove a negative.
This phrase you use. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: PapaJijo | Nov 7, 2006 1:01:41 PM
It appears that "conservative" radio host Laura Ingraham is encouraging her listeners to flood a certain voter rights hotline with bogus calls all day, I suppose to prevent actual voters from getting help, or maybe to just annoy people for fun.
I honestly don't know what to say about this. Maybe one of our resident trolls can provide some sort of knee jerk defense for this garbage.
Posted by: sprocket | Nov 7, 2006 1:18:17 PM
what she is doing is illegal
Posted by: akaison | Nov 7, 2006 1:23:27 PM
You know, when one side is working to get out the vote, and the other side is trying to discourage people from voting, you don't have to be John Adams to figure out which side has a higher opinion of representative democracy.
Posted by: Mark | Nov 7, 2006 1:26:58 PM
I think Republicans need to be introduced to the concept of "preponderance of evidence" - not in a legal sense but a GODDAMN COMMON SENSE.
Posted by: Auguste | Nov 7, 2006 1:27:22 PM
Ah, one of my Slashdot buddies put up the transcript: This messages is for Timothy Daly. This is the Virginia Elections Commission. We've determined that you are registered in New York to vote. Therefore you will not be allowed to cast your vote on Tuesday. If you do show up, you will be charged criminally.
I agree this is bad. Now, I also know that this is easily traced and hope the authorities find the person(s) responsible and put them under a jail no matter who they are associated with.
Too bad the Leftists don't want ACORN, people who disable Republican voter shuttle vans, poll watchers demanding straight ticket Democrat voting, and their crowd dealt with in a similar manner.
On to more important things: Country Radio linked to depressed southern white male Democrat voter turnout by banning the Dixie Chicks.
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 1:28:15 PM
What makes you think the conservatives are not trying to get their voters to the polls, same as the liberals?
If you think only those associated with one side of the aisle can be seen using dirty tricks, you haven't been around politics much.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Nov 7, 2006 1:29:32 PM
The Conservastives are not trying as hard as the Leftists. Dead voter registration is 4:1 Democrat and nursing home ballots from the unconcious are near 100% Democrat.
They really do try harder and are quite successful in those areas.
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 1:33:11 PM
I will probably vote a straight Democrat ticket after I'm dead.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Nov 7, 2006 1:34:32 PM
. . . Seriously, the machine really did not select what my finger selected, but I was able to correct it easily. I played around selecting and de-selecting for a while. When I touched Republican, sometimes it selected Republican and sometimes it selected Democrat. But touching Democrat always selected Democrat. I noticed this behavior only on the governor part of the ballot. I actually do not suspect foul play. However, let this be a warning if you're voting in a rush: Slow down and make sure that the machine's UI feedback matches with what you intended to select.
Wondering if VA got their screens corrected for that Webb/Allen race. A judge was ordering them (last night, according to FOX News) to get them corrected before the polls opened today.
Posted by: Guy Montag | Nov 7, 2006 1:42:04 PM
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