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August 02, 2006
Prison Rape
It's all too often a joke. When we were hoping to put Ken Lay behind bars, Bill Lockyer explained his grand desire "to personally escort Lay to an 8-by-10 cell that he could share with a tattooed dude who says, Hi, my name is Spike, honey."' Charming. So much as fantasies of prison rape are good for a sitcom foil though, the actual act is one of the most repugnant and widespread human rights abuses in the country. For a society that recoils from corporal punishment, we're pretty damn quick to knowingly condemn criminals to brutal sexual assault:
In 2001 Human Rights Watch attempted to turn off the canned laughter. Drawing on testimonies from 200 prisoners in thirty-four states, HRW released a report titled "No Escape: Male Rape in US Prisons." The findings suggested that male rape, often accompanied by almost unimaginable violence, is widespread throughout the US prison system. The report was damning enough to help convince Congress to pass the optimistically named 2003 Prison Rape Elimination Act. In writing PREA, Congress estimated that 13 percent of inmates had been sexually assaulted. Even if that is (as many experts believe) a conservative estimate, it translates into a stunning number of victims. "Nearly 200,000 inmates now incarcerated have been or will be the victims of prison rape," the act states. "The total number of inmates who have been sexually assaulted in the past 20 years likely exceeds 1,000,000."[...]
"I think in a lot of ways this issue is where the women's issue was about thirty years ago," says Lara Stemple, former executive director of Stop Prisoner Rape, the only national organization dedicated to advocating on behalf of prison-rape survivors. "People still make jokes about men being raped that people would never make about women." If the male victim is behind bars, the problem is compounded. Louise Kindley, a veteran rape-crisis counselor who recently opened New York's first program for male survivors, says, "There is an idea that they deserve it."
I think that's right. We've decided to tacitly accept rape in our prisons because we believe deeply and firmly in the guilt of all who enter -- this is just further punishment. Better yet, we're not the executors -- that such barbarism occurs behind bars is further confirmation that those we incarcerate are monsters. The assaults make us feel better, they vindicate our sentencing. And we can countenance them because we never face their horrors:
So despite his brother's warning that any sign of weakness would turn him into a victim, when an older inmate came up and started talking to him on his first day at Riverside, Parsell opened a chink in his exhausted defenses. "The guy was just very friendly," he remembers, "and he said, You know, after count [the roll call of inmates] why don't you come down to chow with me?" By late morning the following day, Parsell and his new friend, Ron, were in the card room with two other inmates, dipping into a plastic bag full of homemade hooch. The old Maxwell House coffee jar Parsell was drinking out of never seemed to get empty.
It took about half an hour for the Thorazine they'd spiked his drink with to hit. Suddenly Parsell couldn't think straight. He couldn't understand what was being said to him, and he couldn't understand why he couldn't understand. It was, he says, like watching a film with pieces of blank tape spliced into it: "skips, like mini-blackouts," flashes followed by darkness.
Then he was back in one of the dormitories. Four inmates were waiting for him. It was only then that Parsell began to understand what was happening. But by the time the panic hit, it was too late. Ron shoved Parsell onto one of the bunks and another two inmates tore off his pants. Even if Parsell hadn't been half their size, with the Thorazine he didn't have a chance. Ron pushed himself on top of Parsell and raped him, forcing Parsell's head into the pillow to muffle his screams as his rectum was ripped open. His cries were so desperate that they almost suffocated him trying to keep him quiet. But Ron didn't stop. Parsell felt like he screamed for an eternity.
All this happens in government structures with taxpayer support. We are all complicit.
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Well, for once we agree completely. Why would we tolerate behavior on the inside of prisons that we don't on the outside? I had heard about the 2003 Prison Rape Elimination Act but don't know much about it.
Here is the $64,000.00 question: How far are you willing to go to enforce this? Are you willing to give solitary for up to one year? For the rest of their term? Double their term? Death?
Laws mean little without enforcement.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 2, 2006 5:13:07 PM
It's not just rape--our prison system fails at every level, including the basic function of reducing recitivism. Sam Brownback is the only politician I name who has recently proposed anything decent regarding prison reform, and he is batshit insane.
Also, I'm not sure we (US citizens) recoil at the thought of corporal punishment. As far as I am aware at least half of the US states allow paddling in schools. Now I know that isn't the same as public flogging of criminals, but it does demonstrate at least an acceptance for the use of draconian discipline.
Posted by: Eric G. | Aug 2, 2006 5:22:50 PM
Good for you, Fred.
On-topic, we may all be complicit, but some (cough, Lockyer, whom I have always disliked) are more complicit than others. See also: the prison guard's union.
I wouldn't feel as sick about the US incarceration rate if we ran our prisons as if we were civilized.
Posted by: wcw | Aug 2, 2006 6:24:09 PM
thanks for posting about this Ezra. We do need to talk about this and stop it too. It is all to easy to ignore. Again, thanks for the post.
Posted by: Kathleen | Aug 2, 2006 6:24:45 PM
I am continually mystified by the acceptance of prison guards and prison administrators claims that they have nothing to do with this or that they are powerless to do anything. It's a prison, how do you not know everything and control everything? If you don't, isn't that a serious inditement of the way the prison is run?
Posted by: NBarnes | Aug 2, 2006 7:31:23 PM
What's interesting is that Fred jumped right to the "punish the bastards", and pretty much ignored things like: better conditions, less crowding, not jailing nonviolent drug offenders, dumping 3 Strikes for pure property crimes, etc. etc.
While actual enforcement against the rapists would be welcome, Fred's just looking for another excuse to kill some undesirables. No interest in preventing the conditions that give rise to the problem. Typical Republican.
P.S. NBarnes, from what I understand, in a lot of cases (a) the prison guards use violent inmates as a compliance tool, and (b) in overcrowded prisons, the guards and administration let gangs run things, as long as it doesn't bubble up to the point that the guards have to deal with it.
Posted by: paperwight | Aug 2, 2006 7:55:27 PM
There are prisoners who probably should be put in solitary or some other such punishment within the general punishment of being in prison. So Fred's approach certainly has merit.
But I would also agree with paperwight that there are many other issues feeding into the generally appalling conditions of our prisons. We incarcerate far too many people, often because of our ill-conceived drug and 3-strikes laws. Looking to other methods to deal with nonviolent drug and property crimes would solve a lot of our problems just by reducing the number of prisoners.
There is a strong punitive streak in the US that I've started to notice over the last several years. I'm sure it's always been there, but it seems to be one of the ways in which we have reacted - badly - to the events of 9/11.
God help anyone who dares oppose the death penalty on the grounds that it is "cruel and unusual." The letters to the editor will be full of graphic descriptions of what the condemned did, along with a thinly veiled desire to see the exact same thing happen to the prisoner.
There's a disturbing number of people who apparently believe that all criminals are rapists and who seem to derive pleasure from the idea that they are now being raped.
The level of violence that otherwise law-abiding citizens wish to inflict upon our enemies and criminals along with the idea that we are justified in breaking our laws so long as our victims are judged - correctly or not - to have broken them first scares the hell out of me.
Posted by: Stephen | Aug 2, 2006 9:21:34 PM
Fred, crimes committed in prison are still crimes, and they can still be prosecuted like any other crimes. If you rape someone in prison, you should expect to go to trial and be punished. Granted, increased prosecution of these attacks will only keep predators in tiny rooms with their prey for longer, so more has to happen than better prosecution, but it's certainly a start.
Posted by: Sara | Aug 2, 2006 9:34:13 PM
If more attention was paid to US citizens in US prisons instead of terrorists being coddled over at Guantanamo Bay, US prisons might be a better place.
I wonder how the Gitmo terrorists would have survived in a US state or federal prison.
Posted by: Captain Toke | Aug 2, 2006 11:02:11 PM
If more attention was paid to US citizens in US prisons instead of terrorists being coddled over at Guantanamo Bay, US prisons might be a better place.
Shorter Toke: 9/11! 9/11! 9/11!
Does anyone seriously believe that Republican Talking Point Troll Toke wants to make US prisons a better place?
Posted by: paperwight | Aug 2, 2006 11:31:18 PM
Does anyone seriously believe that Republican Talking Point Troll Toke wants to make US prisons a better place?
Correcting liberals with one hand wrapped around a big, fat, giant doobie, just to make it fair! Yeah, I'm just a regular reefer smoking, John Q. Republican! Didn't you see me speaking at the Republican National Convention speaking on the virtues of smoking fatties?
Yes, I want less rapes in prison. There, but for the grace of God, go I.
I was just pointing out that in the Left's fury to give constitutional rights to terrorists, the Left forgot how good the terrorists had it compared to US prisoners in US prisons.
Wouldn't Guantanamo Bay, Cuba be considered pretty easy time compared to US prisons?
Posted by: Captain Toke | Aug 2, 2006 11:51:08 PM
"...the Left's fury to give constitutional rights to terrorists..."
What about simply devising a constitutional process to find out which of those in Gitmo are, in fact, terrorists, and which of them were simply sold to the U.S. because their neighbor disliked them or was short on cash?
Posted by: Stephen Frug | Aug 3, 2006 12:16:12 AM
Count me as one of the people who gets a good laugh out of inmates getting raped.
of course the typical liberal response is to do insane shit like giving them work release, more privileges, cable TV, etc so we can make them feel more "human" therefore they wont resort to this savagery.
Hey liberals I got a better idea. Why dont we just pay for prostitutes to come in and service the inmates so they dont feel the urge to rape each other? I'm sure thats a good taxpayer use of money, and the local prostitute market would like it too
Posted by: joe blow | Aug 3, 2006 12:54:28 AM
By the time one gets passed the obligatory capt. toke posts (and fellow travelers), it is discouraging to post here anymore.
There are lots of reasons state prisons (and county jails) are nightmares, but surely one thing that could be done is completely end the major influence the guard unions have over politicians due to their substantial contributions.
As to general attitudes toward prisoners (whether for domestic crimes or suspected international terrorism), yes, a big and growing subset of the US citizenry are completely accepting and encouraging of torture, rape, inhuman conditions, and other things we 'add-on' to the sentences of prisoners.
Some one, some day, may be able to unravel why the US has become this greenhouse for nurturing violence, war, and hate for anything other than those people's narrow, distorted view of the world.
Although I intensely disliked the song for superpatriot reasons that it exhibited, it is time for re-write of "I'm proud to be an American", inserting the word 'not' before proud. I used to be proud, not so much anymore. The situation is just a disgrace.
Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Aug 3, 2006 1:08:34 AM
For deeper insight into the prison situation in California, jryan86 posted a diary today at dKos that is worth a read. He discussed Angelides's and Arnold's proposals ahead of a special session of the CA legislature starting Aug 7, which will deal with prison reform.
Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Aug 3, 2006 1:25:03 AM
- Amnesty for inmates who are in for nothing more serious than a first-time marijuana possession rap, to reduce prison overcrowding.
- Accountability for prison guard staff who let inmate-on-inmate violence of all kinds go on. Surveillance cameras everywhere to watch the watchmen.
- Better training and higher expectations for the staff. Reduce the Zimbardo Factor.
Fining rather than jailing potheads is a fiscal and social win. The other two elements are likely to be expensive.
Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Aug 3, 2006 3:17:25 AM
you know how much money they make off the prison system?
You know what ass-rape smells like to these people? Money.
Posted by: tony | Aug 3, 2006 3:25:35 AM
Best of luck to Lara Stemple and everybody on her side. Brad Plumer had a post on some other brutal things happening in prisons a while ago.
Posted by: Neil the Ethical Werewolf | Aug 3, 2006 5:34:02 AM
The measure of a civilisation is how well it treats its prisoners. Churchill said that when he was Home Secretary (in charge of prisons and police), but I reckon you won't hear it quoted much.
Nor his other killer quote, "When I was a conservative I said a lot of very stupid things. And I became a liberal so I wouldn't have to go on saying stupid things."
On a more serious note, it's worth pointing out, again, that many of the Abu Ghraib guards were prison officers or policemen in civilian life, and simply imported their skills to the military sphere.
Comparing Guantanamo Bay to US prisons - I think it's unarguable that Guantanamo is worse. The suicide rate is higher at Guantanamo. Inmates are kept in solitary confinement. There are no televisions or other leisure facilities, and no work. Cells are far more spartan. There is no contact with family, friends or the outside world. Interrogations can last 20 hours a day (according to transcripts obtained by the media) and go on for weeks at a time. According to the FBI, inmates under interrogation are chained to chairs for up to 24 hours or more, and are not allowed to leave the chair to defecate. And, of course, inmates in a civilian prison know the length of their sentence. Guantanamo inmates have no idea -they could be released tomorrow, or in fifty years' time. None of these conditions apply in a civilian prison.
And as for "the Left's fury to give constitutional rights to terrorists", the Captain forgets that these rights are not in the gift of the Left, or any other political group, person or state. Terrorists, like everyone else, are endowed with these rights by their Creator. Laws, constitutions and governments may enumerate these rights, and may takeaction to protect people while they exercise them (or, sadly, to prevent people from exercising them) but they cannot give or take away the rights themselves. They are inalienable. That's what the word means.
Posted by: ajay | Aug 3, 2006 5:38:25 AM
Well, I now know you are morons.
The topic was prison rape and how wrong it is but here is how true trolls act:
What's interesting is that Fred jumped right to the "punish the bastards", and pretty much ignored things like: better conditions, less crowding, not jailing nonviolent drug offenders, dumping 3 Strikes for pure property crimes, etc. etc.
What a laugh. It's never the individual's fault. It's the system. No, according to paperweight, we shouldn't attempt to punish the inmates for this heinous crime.
If you rape someone in prison, you should expect to go to trial and be punished. Granted, increased prosecution of these attacks will only keep predators in tiny rooms with their prey for longer, so more has to happen than better prosecution, but it's certainly a start.
How helpless Sarah seems to view this problem. Sara, these people are already in prison. There will have to be a much harsher punishment to deter this behavior and that is something that liberals are unwilling to do.
Oh, yeah...they rail against this nightmare just as they do against other crime, but in usual form, they are unwilling to hold the individual culpable for his own behavior. I'll bet most of the liberal suggestions involve throwing lots of money at the problem and when they do, they will get the usual results....not much.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 3, 2006 8:40:56 AM
Prison rape is terrible, but I'm with the people pointing to the general fucked-uppedness of our justice and prison systems. Trying to address the rape issue in isolation is probably doomed to fail.
There's also a sort of weird alliance between some anti-prison rape groups and some pretty unsavory types. I don't know if there are any kinds of formal or informal links, but googling "prison rape" brings up links to VDARE and Stormfront on the first page. Strange.
Posted by: tps12 | Aug 3, 2006 9:21:03 AM
If a conservative is a liberal that got mugged, then Fred must be a Conservative who got raped in prison.
Posted by: Jimmm | Aug 3, 2006 9:28:40 AM
Ajay, Churchill was quoting Dostoyevsky.
Posted by: Jimmm | Aug 3, 2006 9:31:28 AM
Hear, Hear!
Tony is right - running prisons is a license to print money. The privatization of prisons is a big problem in this country. The prison guard union is also a problem. The forces of prison privatization will take care of that one though. It won't help the prisoners but they'll have eliminated another union.
I've been writing about prison issues (but not enough) since I started my blog over two years ago. I've been an annoyance to my friends and family on the topic of prisoner rights since I was involved with the prison project at Bucknell University, which is located near Lewisburg Federal Penn. There's a reason the Bible talks about witnessing for people in prison. It ain't easy. We could all do much more on the issue. It wouldn't be so daunting if more people were involved.
Posted by: eRobin | Aug 3, 2006 9:53:07 AM
Yes, I want less rapes in prison. There, but for the grace of God, go I.
I was just pointing out that in the Left's fury to give constitutional rights to terrorists, the Left forgot how good the terrorists had it compared to US prisoners in US prisons.
Wouldn't Guantanamo Bay, Cuba be considered pretty easy time compared to US prisons?
Posted by: Captain Toke
Do you think prison rape has only been a problem, or has got significantly worse, since Guantanamo Bay opened?
Posted by: Cyrus | Aug 3, 2006 10:06:02 AM
I doubt that prisoners suddenly become homosexual upon entering prison. It's just obvious: they are locked up with the same gender for years. If we want to reduce prison rapes, there's one easy answer: institutionalize conjugal visits, perhaps as an incentive to work and to continue good behavior. Beyond that, psychiatric or at least psychological counseling is often beneficial to people who would (or did) commit crimes.
Posted by: Adam | Aug 3, 2006 10:35:41 AM
What a laugh. It's never the individual's fault. It's the system. No, according to paperweight, we shouldn't attempt to punish the inmates for this heinous crime.
Fred is a transparent liar, which is amusing.
From the comment that Fred misquotes:
While actual enforcement against the rapists would be welcome, Fred's just looking for another excuse to kill some undesirables. No interest in preventing the conditions that give rise to the problem. Typical Republican.
Funny, that. Fred proved me right in his very first response. I feel bad for Fred though -- I think he's probably a product of his system -- a poor education and learned bigotry.
Posted by: paperwight | Aug 3, 2006 11:25:55 AM
-Segregation of violent from non-violent.
-1 prisoner, 1 cell.
-No activities where groups of >1 have any interrupted sight lines.
Posted by: TJ | Aug 3, 2006 11:43:30 AM
Believe it or not, Rich Lowry wrote something very good on this topic in the past year or two. I don't remember if it was in a Corner post or in his column, but it provided the exceptional and unsettling experience of finding myself in agreement with the editor of NR.
Posted by: erin | Aug 3, 2006 11:44:09 AM
Shorter Toke Again: 9/11! 9/11! I can use terrorists as a club for anything at all, no matter how little sense it makes!
Posted by: paperwight | Aug 3, 2006 11:44:35 AM
The biggest obstacle to reducing and prosecuting prison rape is that the reductions in the relative freedom enjoyed by prisoners within the facilities would have to be reduced to levels prisoners' rights folks (rights, baby!) and wardens (riots, baby!) find unacceptable.
Posted by: slickdpdx | Aug 3, 2006 11:51:36 AM
erin: I'm sure he had some unpleasant motive. If Lowry wrote an article in favour of giving fluffy kittens with big, adorable eyes to children who would love and cherish them, I would assume that either he was being paid large amounts by the Big Kitten industry lobby, or that he hoped the kittens would claw out the eyes of any illegal immigrant children who received them, or that he hoped to spread Toxoplasma gondii throughout the population as a way of making Americans more anti-social and thus more naturally conservative.
Posted by: ajay | Aug 3, 2006 11:57:27 AM
No one, including paperweight, has answered the question asked. You have just danced around blaming the system. Here is the question again:
How far are you willing to go to enforce this?
So far, no one is willing to stand behind their convictions. What would you do NOW? What is doable NOW?
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 3, 2006 12:00:51 PM
Fred really wants people to advocate shooting inmates out of hand. Seems getting caught out in his lie really bothered him.
Of course, he's ignoring entirely the comment which says that rape is already a crime, and the other comments that note that it's a crime that's ignored (and tacitly endorsed) by the law and order types that Fred worships. See, Fred sees this as nothing more than a wedge-issue opportunity to say "Libruls are soft on crime!" But Fred won't agree to do any of the things that are necessary to actually reduce the incidence of the crime -- he just wants people to agree with him that shooting undesirables is a good thing.
Posted by: paperwight | Aug 3, 2006 12:17:58 PM
Come on, Fred, we don't have to answer your f**king questions. Are you Lord Fred?
Here's one for you. You ask how far we are willing to to to enforece this. Aren't you suggesting you'd torture, maim, execute with pain, or some other fascist fantasy?
A**hole!
Posted by: JimPortlandOR | Aug 3, 2006 12:26:13 PM
Trying to close Fred's open bold tags...
Posted by: paperwight | Aug 3, 2006 12:39:10 PM
Put those pet-collar things on inmates. Only make them big enough to prevent the inmates from getting within arm's reach of one another...
Seriously, remove the possibility of physical contact -> problem immediately reduced.
Posted by: TJ | Aug 3, 2006 1:22:49 PM
I have addressed this issue before myself, and congratulate Ezra for bringing it up.
I find it disheartening though that the immediate response of many is to blame their political opponents (its all the Liberals fault! Its all the Conservatives fault!.)
That is, frankly, rather stupid.
Violence in prisons is not a liberal or conservative issue. It isn't a Republican vs. Democrat issue. What it is, is a horrible problem with only complex solution.
There are I think many things that feed into this. One is the incarceration rate which means their are too few resources for too many prisoners. One is a willingness to 'look the other way' and a, yes, a satifaction in some quarters that 'bad people' are being abused. Perhaps most signifigant, and most difficult to 'fix' is the natural tendancy of guards in a prison situation to dehumanize the inmates.
I am sure that their are no simple answers that will make this problem go away. I do wish though that more people were interested in this beyond its usefulness to point out the shortcomings of political opponents.
Posted by: Dave Justus | Aug 3, 2006 2:35:44 PM
First thing I said was, "good for you, Fred."
There is a pretty simple solution, but it awaits an electorate who can distinguish useful criminal policy from a traditional "law-and-order" (cough) campaign.
So I guess we are all complicit, after all.
Posted by: wcw | Aug 3, 2006 5:52:31 PM
What would you do NOW? What is doable NOW?
RELEASE the harmless potheads.
IMPRISON the guards who look the other way while prisoners are raped. They're the ones with something to lose.
Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Aug 3, 2006 9:39:43 PM
Of course, he's ignoring entirely the comment which says that rape is already a crime, and the other comments that note that it's a crime that's ignored...
Well, paperweight understands at least half of the problem. Yes, it's already a crime and yes, it's ignored. However, these people are already in prison and some for life so what do they care?
The usual lip service paperweight suggests will not solve the problem. Only TJ has made any suggestion toward solving this problem. The rest were either blaming society, blaming the system, blaming anyone and everything except the people actually committing the crime. So I will ask again of all who have harrumpphed about how terrible this is:
How far are you willing to go to stop this?
Apparently, not very far! And you wonder why the country perceives you as soft on crime!!
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 3, 2006 11:07:41 PM
Fred, are you willing to hold prison guards accountable for their complicity? Or is that beyond the pale?
Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Aug 4, 2006 1:41:39 AM
Fred, are you willing to hold prison guards accountable for their complicity?
Of course.
My it got awfully quiet when someone holds your feet to the fire about all of the tough talk and no will to act, the wringning your hands.
You guys are pathetic.
talk...talk...talk
That is why the public no longer trusts the left with crime issues or even national security.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 4, 2006 8:57:02 AM
Actually, Fred, it's more likely that most of the commenters here are just tired of dealing with your ad hom.
And idiocies like "my it got awfully quiet....talk talk talk".
Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Aug 4, 2006 11:39:12 AM
More likely is that they are "called" on their unwillingness......as you are.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 4, 2006 2:00:31 PM
More likely is that they are "called" on their unwillingness......as you are.
Wev.
Posted by: Hamilton Lovecraft | Aug 4, 2006 4:58:53 PM
Personaly I find it pointless to address comments by Fred because most of the time he refuses to actually answer any substantive arguments. Instead he seems to thrive on OT liberal bashes - never addressing any points. The silence you infer, Fred, is the room clearing due to your foul stench.
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Hay if they want to eliminate prison rapes, they have to go down the list of evil wardens and evil prioners, guards and then start with the gang member, and inmates. They need to put all the inmates that are in their for life together and let them kill one another and rape one another since they know the ropes and they are use to living this life style.Then put these inmates in categories non violent, rapist, child support violators and drug dealers, murders,sick etc. But no they dont care they do it for the money thats all. Heck! the guards are more scared of the inmates than anything because the inmates (gang members) runs the show. After these guadrs bring cell phones and drugs into the priosn system and allow rapes and they know who gonna get rape from the moment a inmate eneter a yard. They need to have classes on this type of stuff. For first time offenders. They will take a young man maybe 17 years old and trial him as adult for setting a dumpster on fire and put him in a prison and he be raped over and over and over again by different inmates he scared and have no one to tunr to he tells the guard on duty and they tell him to fight or fu&^ With no where to turn to and tired of being raped and beat by other inmates this teen ager kills him self.Could have been saved also if the guard would have listen to another inmate who said the inamte was about to kill him self. Its the dam guard that cause all the problems. Then they have the nerve to beat you. Hers the website read it yourself
www.gabrielfilms.com/prisonrapefilm/ documentation.html
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Posted by: Shawn | Sep 28, 2006 12:04:07 PM
I'll begin with a sort of complimentary introduction to what your paper regarding the lynching/ murder of Stanley "Tookie" Williams, accomplished (Final Call Newspaper, Witness to an Execution: The Last Day of Stanley "Tookie" Williams,12-18-2006). Just as influential in inspiring my neo-revolutionism is the factor of your gender.
To have a female be involved and courageous enough to play a major risk in defeating this evil endeavor--called corrections, is awe inspiring, in the tune of a Deepa Kumar, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, or Arundhati Roy.
Besides the regular expository details of your superbly informatory paper, it has made my donating channels reserved to the [already contributing] anti abortion arena, but now, concentrated more so towards Critical Resistance, The Sentencing Project, and any other penal corrective organization I can find. Not to mention, you'll likewise witness a contribution to your, Campaign to End the Death Penalty.
Their are two instances that I have recently become hell bent on addressing, in which the ['planted'] President of the U.S. and a "Congress for the Truth (ACT)" representative named Brigitte Gabriel, while speaking to further Dumbya-fy the public, have only fortified the forces for humanely change. President G.W. "Dumbya" Bush, Jr. first exposed in a 12/12/2006 article (Washington Post) that peace and calm were going to try to be brought to Iraq with the systematic production of "jobs (J-Words)," there. A process that has become somewhat illegal in North America's Urban communals. Additionally, a culminating factor in the [under]development, "Mentacide" of such Afrikan-Americans as Bro. Stanley.
If J-Words can be manifested in the violent, war torn neighborhoods of the Middle East, why can't they be produced right here at home? It's obviously a dead-giveaway that J-Words are purposely removed from the predominately Non-white communities, to impose unsafe and criminal activities, to justify the hard-line policing, arrests, surveillance, intimidation ("slave mentality"), murder and incarceration of our youths.
Pertaining to the radio show on which I overheard Ms. Gabriel misspeak--so to speak--she said Americans have to stop being scared to face our enemies head on, by not addressing who they are. She then specifically said Islam was our enemy, for, "...if we took 'Islam/Muslims' out of the 'War on Terror,' their would be no War on Terror!" Consequently, isn't that enough of a motto to acclimate if we took the Spermicidal-Physical Inferiority Syndrome (SPIS) whites have, from society, Non-whites wouldn't suffer like we do? If the "systems (which really pertain to white people's daily fear of dying-off; reproductive insecurity)" weren't imposed in corporate boardrooms to further niggerize and impoverish certain communities, Blacks wouldn't experience the vast array of destabilization techniques meant to contain, nullify, and dehumanize us.
(NOTE: The staff of ACT for which Ms. Gabriel spews her hate, is boardly staffed by all non-Black males. She's simply being galvanized as a tool of their 'inferior' missions and goals, only to be hidden by some alleged, patriotic devotion and concerns.)
Just as in your paper you used the word system on occasions, I suggest more emphasis needs to be mentioned on who runs the systems, that place us and our families, under attack. The Census Bureaus set-up and designed in a country (supposedly) founded on a "melting pot," racial inclusionary, Color blindness, '...tired, huddled masses' theory," where does the need for a bureau which has checks & balances for Ethnicity and race, come into being? And let us never forget: *ONE MAN-ONE WOMAN, FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS, LOVE!
More importantly, in reference to the penitentiary-industrial complex ("PIC"), and Tookie's intentional lynching/murder, we must begin to examine the people running these complexes--not just the hiding-behind-the-scenes Jewish and European death-runners.
When we recognize and cover the types of conditions and murder rates that exist in prisons, one must ask, 'but where are the correctional officers?' The mental aptitude and sanity of these wardens and guards must be evaluated and brought into the picture. Most of these (so-called) Security personnel have rather long and definitive records of abuses and criminal histories, themselves. I have witnessed where the inmates can only be abused; have access to drugs and alcohol; be raped; and killed, only with the assistance of the Security personnel.
Death traps and downfalls are regularly set-up within the killing chambers and death walls known as penitentiaries. Relatively, more has to be done to remove the word "rehabilitation" from the realms of these facilities. If a person who serves time in them is rehabilitated, why is the recidivism rate so high? Why do some come out worse off, than when they entered? Why can't the formerly incarcerated vote, serve in the military, and have other 'normal' citizen amenities (unrestricted occupations)? Why are they labeled with such negative titles as "ex-cons" and so forth, yet incarcerated CEO's, political officials, and the regularly arrested (white) celebrities are never referred to the same, when medially covered?
Sodomites Use Their Lifestyle, "Death Penalty," to Kill
To determine the seriousness and true dedication U.S. interveners have in correcting a societal defect, notice whether their intervention measures are pre, or post corrective. For instance, in regards to incarceration rates being reduced, are most resolving matters proposed in adolescence, or after incarceration? True law legislating re-solvers should be seen more so prior to lock-ups, than after.
If the rescuers are seen after lock-downs, the homoSINsual forces may have already brutalized, abused, raped, and killed them. Clearly put, today's men-in-control-of-men, are using the PIC to fagify, homofy, and mentally derange men. Just as the military, Boy Scouts, certain prestigious clubs, etc., don't allow Heterosexual and Sodomites to mix, why do prisons? All the anti-Rapper/Hip-Hop is spoken about today, to justify trying (Black) boys as men, and placing them in the same facilities--for intentional rapes, sodomies, mental detriments for which the boys will never recover (Case in point: Terrance Johnson, P.G. County, Maryland.) Hip-Hoppers are our neo-age truth sayers!
Some citizens fall for the old adage that penitentiaries are for men to be raped, abused and suffer. Yet, what happens when most of these (allegedly) rehabilitated men are re-introduced into society, after they've been repeatedly, sexually abused. Now we've put children, families, and spouses at risk. For now, these men come out infected with the HIV/AIDS virus. Molesting whomever they feel--regardless of age or sex. Kidnapping and murdering our little one's, mainly, the most vulnerable one's to prey upon.
A more rightful tactic of suffering would be to have--as best could be monitored, determined--Heterosexual prisons, and homoSINsual prisons. This way true suffering and penalties could be administered, because the men and women who desire to take advantage of the weaker of their (same) sexes, couldn't. If caught engaging in any type of same-sexual activity, relocate those individuals to the opposite (blashemitic) type of facility.
Making it plain: the PIC is truly used to mentally destroy and introduce men to the anti re-creative lifestyle, to control the population (that's why most inmates are of Afrikan, Hispanic descents?), mentally maim and kill. Being or becoming a Sodomite will only lead to a number of mind-altering traumas, in which the status quo and establishment of men want; as it better keeps them and their elite few in control, dominating, and 'mastering' the many.
Blasphe-sexual's are no threat to the Godly, Procreative lifestyle, this is why the correctional leaders welcome the "evil spirit" of perversion-ites.
Still, never forget, the dominant number of prison guards, wardens and officers have also, some sort of beneficial agenda in these "fem" and "dom" type of penal, queer affairs. How could such conditions exist there, if not for the perversional, desires, wishes, and motivations of the Security personnel. This is another regular examination that needs to be conducted on the staff, employed personnel.
Bro. Tookie was rehabilitated though, by the highest form of rehabilitation they allow in prisons--the corrective action of removing his great spirit, will, and Godly vigor from the planet. If the millions of gang members nationally, would have become witnesses to what could have become of Tookie's true, rehabilitation and renewing of his mind-set, it could have been as disastrous for the legal and white supremacists maintained people (systems) as if the Hon. Dr. MLKJ had converted to Islam. (Which rumors surround the reason he was assassinated.)
These ungodly people (systems) in America, the West period, have always been about the suppression and world population control of the "Indians, untouchable, Of Color masses, financially challenged (lower-classed). In relation, all correctional officers need independent/outside, bi-annual psychological evaluations, drug screenings, regular breathalyzer tests, credit report surveillance's (for the culpability of being bribed). (In women's correctional facilities, more sexual offenses are committed by the officers than the inmates.)
If all that's changed about the current system's are the written protocols, lingo, regulations and mission statements, we're still left with the same old SPIS mind-sets. Re-signifying, it's the correction of the people that's more important than the literary tasks. The North Atlantic Slave Trade ("Black Holocaust") was eventually written off as illegal--yet it existed. Abortions are spiritually illegal--yet they exist. Murder, inequality, infanticide, "double-jeopardy," political imprisonments, land theft after reservations, yet, they all still exist. Under an inferior minded people. Conditions at Angola, Ryker's Island, Eastern State Pen., Attica, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, Robben Island (South Afrika), San Quentin, Leavenworth, Sing Sing, etc., will always be to more so 'break' the spirit and manhood, than conspire the occupants into formidable, pillars of a society.
Picture this. There's not one law enforcement official that would wave a magic wand, that could eliminate all criminal activity; if they could. Why not? All they're truly concerned about is their lives, careers, personal happiness in life. Self preservation is of Satanism, and that's all they know. Not the Godly, "other preservation is the first Law Of Life."
The deplorable and psychologically destructive conditions administered by prison personnel, such as isolation techniques, physical abuses and demeaning talk, are self-explanatory as to the real intentions of the Western incarceration missions. Tookie was a Pan-Afrikanist. If there's one thing that truly scares the heck out of whites, for a fear of a coming together of the Melanin-ites, it's a Back-to-Afrika motivator. (Notice where Wesley Snipes was when he was recently media-rized for "tax evasion." Other's attacked were: Paul Robeson, Hon. Marcus Garvey, Black male political officials, Hon. Elijah Muhammad (and his disciples), Muhammad Ali, etc. To further rise suspicions, I can't think of any women ever targeted for tax evasion?)
Specifically relating to Tookie, the primary reasons he HAD to be lynched/murdered was his self-corrective, spiritual salvaging of his soul and man's humanity to man. Whence Tookie began to write children's books, speak-out against gang violence, set an example of community productive living, the "forces that be" saw him as a formidable threat. A threat to the corruptive and killing field traps set by the people (government, white supremacy) to maintain its grip on the wickedly oppressive, spiritually pulverizing, impoverishing, and humanely destructive patterns of ending U.S. slavery, dysfunctionalism, poverty, classism, and rising above one's systemic conditions.
As the facilitator of Bro. Williams' lynching/demise, California Governor Arnold Swords-A-Nigger has forever damaged his political ladder. He will always be reminded of the cruelty to mankind and the A-A Family by his culprit and hitman agreement to Tookie's "execution." Where and whenever I see, or hear of him trying to make any kind of personal progress, his detractors, competitors or enemies will receive a copy of this paper; or a communique' reminding them of his hangman's role in Bro Stanley's murder.
Tookie was punishingly killed/lynched for his superior spirit and tribulational courage. He'll always be an example, to me as to never let another man's ('flesh') limit where your goals and aspirations can ascend, to.
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
-- Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Much love and respect,
Mumia Jamil Abdullah Peltier
Posted by: Mumia Jamil Abdullah Peltier | Jan 1, 2007 2:32:13 PM
I'll begin with a sort of complimentary introduction to what your paper regarding the lynching/ murder of Stanley "Tookie" Williams, accomplished (Final Call Newspaper, Witness to an Execution: The Last Day of Stanley "Tookie" Williams,12-18-2006). Just as influential in inspiring my neo-revolutionism is the factor of your gender.
To have a female be involved and courageous enough to play a major risk in defeating this evil endeavor--called corrections, is awe inspiring, in the tune of a Deepa Kumar, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, or Arundhati Roy.
Besides the regular expository details of your superbly informatory paper, it has made my donating channels reserved to the [already contributing] anti abortion arena, but now, concentrated more so towards Critical Resistance, The Sentencing Project, and any other penal corrective organization I can find. Not to mention, you'll likewise witness a contribution to your, Campaign to End the Death Penalty.
Their are two instances that I have recently become hell bent on addressing, in which the ['planted'] President of the U.S. and a "Congress for the Truth (ACT)" representative named Brigitte Gabriel, while speaking to further Dumbya-fy the public, have only fortified the forces for humanely change. President G.W. "Dumbya" Bush, Jr. first exposed in a 12/12/2006 article (Washington Post) that peace and calm were going to try to be brought to Iraq with the systematic production of "jobs (J-Words)," there. A process that has become somewhat illegal in North America's Urban communals. Additionally, a culminating factor in the [under]development, "Mentacide" of such Afrikan-Americans as Bro. Stanley.
If J-Words can be manifested in the violent, war torn neighborhoods of the Middle East, why can't they be produced right here at home? It's obviously a dead-giveaway that J-Words are purposely removed from the predominately Non-white communities, to impose unsafe and criminal activities, to justify the hard-line policing, arrests, surveillance, intimidation ("slave mentality"), murder and incarceration of our youths.
Pertaining to the radio show on which I overheard Ms. Gabriel misspeak--so to speak--she said Americans have to stop being scared to face our enemies head on, by not addressing who they are. She then specifically said Islam was our enemy, for, "...if we took 'Islam/Muslims' out of the 'War on Terror,' their would be no War on Terror!" Consequently, isn't that enough of a motto to acclimate if we took the Spermicidal-Physical Inferiority Syndrome (SPIS) whites have, from society, Non-whites wouldn't suffer like we do? If the "systems (which really pertain to white people's daily fear of dying-off; reproductive insecurity)" weren't imposed in corporate boardrooms to further niggerize and impoverish certain communities, Blacks wouldn't experience the vast array of destabilization techniques meant to contain, nullify, and dehumanize us.
(NOTE: The staff of ACT for which Ms. Gabriel spews her hate, is boardly staffed by all non-Black males. She's simply being galvanized as a tool of their 'inferior' missions and goals, only to be hidden by some alleged, patriotic devotion and concerns.)
Just as in your paper you used the word system on occasions, I suggest more emphasis needs to be mentioned on who runs the systems, that place us and our families, under attack. The Census Bureaus set-up and designed in a country (supposedly) founded on a "melting pot," racial inclusionary, Color blindness, '...tired, huddled masses' theory," where does the need for a bureau which has checks & balances for Ethnicity and race, come into being? And let us never forget: *ONE MAN-ONE WOMAN, FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS, LOVE!
More importantly, in reference to the penitentiary-industrial complex ("PIC"), and Tookie's intentional lynching/murder, we must begin to examine the people running these complexes--not just the hiding-behind-the-scenes Jewish and European death-runners.
When we recognize and cover the types of conditions and murder rates that exist in prisons, one must ask, 'but where are the correctional officers?' The mental aptitude and sanity of these wardens and guards must be evaluated and brought into the picture. Most of these (so-called) Security personnel have rather long and definitive records of abuses and criminal histories, themselves. I have witnessed where the inmates can only be abused; have access to drugs and alcohol; be raped; and killed, only with the assistance of the Security personnel.
Death traps and downfalls are regularly set-up within the killing chambers and death walls known as penitentiaries. Relatively, more has to be done to remove the word "rehabilitation" from the realms of these facilities. If a person who serves time in them is rehabilitated, why is the recidivism rate so high? Why do some come out worse off, than when they entered? Why can't the formerly incarcerated vote, serve in the military, and have other 'normal' citizen amenities (unrestricted occupations)? Why are they labeled with such negative titles as "ex-cons" and so forth, yet incarcerated CEO's, political officials, and the regularly arrested (white) celebrities are never referred to the same, when medially covered?
Sodomites Use Their Lifestyle, "Death Penalty," to Kill
To determine the seriousness and true dedication U.S. interveners have in correcting a societal defect, notice whether their intervention measures are pre, or post corrective. For instance, in regards to incarceration rates being reduced, are most resolving matters proposed in adolescence, or after incarceration? True law legislating re-solvers should be seen more so prior to lock-ups, than after.
If the rescuers are seen after lock-downs, the homoSINsual forces may have already brutalized, abused, raped, and killed them. Clearly put, today's men-in-control-of-men, are using the PIC to fagify, homofy, and mentally derange men. Just as the military, Boy Scouts, certain prestigious clubs, etc., don't allow Heterosexual and Sodomites to mix, why do prisons? All the anti-Rapper/Hip-Hop is spoken about today, to justify trying (Black) boys as men, and placing them in the same facilities--for intentional rapes, sodomies, mental detriments for which the boys will never recover (Case in point: Terrance Johnson, P.G. County, Maryland.) Hip-Hoppers are our neo-age truth sayers!
Some citizens fall for the old adage that penitentiaries are for men to be raped, abused and suffer. Yet, what happens when most of these (allegedly) rehabilitated men are re-introduced into society, after they've been repeatedly, sexually abused. Now we've put children, families, and spouses at risk. For now, these men come out infected with the HIV/AIDS virus. Molesting whomever they feel--regardless of age or sex. Kidnapping and murdering our little one's, mainly, the most vulnerable one's to prey upon.
A more rightful tactic of suffering would be to have--as best could be monitored, determined--Heterosexual prisons, and homoSINsual prisons. This way true suffering and penalties could be administered, because the men and women who desire to take advantage of the weaker of their (same) sexes, couldn't. If caught engaging in any type of same-sexual activity, relocate those individuals to the opposite (blashemitic) type of facility.
Making it plain: the PIC is truly used to mentally destroy and introduce men to the anti re-creative lifestyle, to control the population (that's why most inmates are of Afrikan, Hispanic descents?), mentally maim and kill. Being or becoming a Sodomite will only lead to a number of mind-altering traumas, in which the status quo and establishment of men want; as it better keeps them and their elite few in control, dominating, and 'mastering' the many.
Blasphe-sexual's are no threat to the Godly, Procreative lifestyle, this is why the correctional leaders welcome the "evil spirit" of perversion-ites.
Still, never forget, the dominant number of prison guards, wardens and officers have also, some sort of beneficial agenda in these "fem" and "dom" type of penal, queer affairs. How could such conditions exist there, if not for the perversional, desires, wishes, and motivations of the Security personnel. This is another regular examination that needs to be conducted on the staff, employed personnel.
Bro. Tookie was rehabilitated though, by the highest form of rehabilitation they allow in prisons--the corrective action of removing his great spirit, will, and Godly vigor from the planet. If the millions of gang members nationally, would have become witnesses to what could have become of Tookie's true, rehabilitation and renewing of his mind-set, it could have been as disastrous for the legal and white supremacists maintained people (systems) as if the Hon. Dr. MLKJ had converted to Islam. (Which rumors surround the reason he was assassinated.)
These ungodly people (systems) in America, the West period, have always been about the suppression and world population control of the "Indians, untouchable, Of Color masses, financially challenged (lower-classed). In relation, all correctional officers need independent/outside, bi-annual psychological evaluations, drug screenings, regular breathalyzer tests, credit report surveillance's (for the culpability of being bribed). (In women's correctional facilities, more sexual offenses are committed by the officers than the inmates.)
If all that's changed about the current system's are the written protocols, lingo, regulations and mission statements, we're still left with the same old SPIS mind-sets. Re-signifying, it's the correction of the people that's more important than the literary tasks. The North Atlantic Slave Trade ("Black Holocaust") was eventually written off as illegal--yet it existed. Abortions are spiritually illegal--yet they exist. Murder, inequality, infanticide, "double-jeopardy," political imprisonments, land theft after reservations, yet, they all still exist. Under an inferior minded people. Conditions at Angola, Ryker's Island, Eastern State Pen., Attica, Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, Robben Island (South Afrika), San Quentin, Leavenworth, Sing Sing, etc., will always be to more so 'break' the spirit and manhood, than conspire the occupants into formidable, pillars of a society.
Picture this. There's not one law enforcement official that would wave a magic wand, that could eliminate all criminal activity; if they could. Why not? All they're truly concerned about is their lives, careers, personal happiness in life. Self preservation is of Satanism, and that's all they know. Not the Godly, "other preservation is the first Law Of Life."
The deplorable and psychologically destructive conditions administered by prison personnel, such as isolation techniques, physical abuses and demeaning talk, are self-explanatory as to the real intentions of the Western incarceration missions. Tookie was a Pan-Afrikanist. If there's one thing that truly scares the heck out of whites, for a fear of a coming together of the Melanin-ites, it's a Back-to-Afrika motivator. (Notice where Wesley Snipes was when he was recently media-rized for "tax evasion." Other's attacked were: Paul Robeson, Hon. Marcus Garvey, Black male political officials, Hon. Elijah Muhammad (and his disciples), Muhammad Ali, etc. To further rise suspicions, I can't think of any women ever targeted for tax evasion?)
Specifically relating to Tookie, the primary reasons he HAD to be lynched/murdered was his self-corrective, spiritual salvaging of his soul and man's humanity to man. Whence Tookie began to write children's books, speak-out against gang violence, set an example of community productive living, the "forces that be" saw him as a formidable threat. A threat to the corruptive and killing field traps set by the people (government, white supremacy) to maintain its grip on the wickedly oppressive, spiritually pulverizing, impoverishing, and humanely destructive patterns of ending U.S. slavery, dysfunctionalism, poverty, classism, and rising above one's systemic conditions.
As the facilitator of Bro. Williams' lynching/demise, California Governor Arnold Swords-A-Nigger has forever damaged his political ladder. He will always be reminded of the cruelty to mankind and the A-A Family by his culprit and hitman agreement to Tookie's "execution." Where and whenever I see, or hear of him trying to make any kind of personal progress, his detractors, competitors or enemies will receive a copy of this paper; or a communique' reminding them of his hangman's role in Bro Stanley's murder.
Tookie was punishingly killed/lynched for his superior spirit and tribulational courage. He'll always be an example, to me as to never let another man's ('flesh') limit where your goals and aspirations can ascend, to.
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
-- Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Much love and respect,
Mumia Jamil Abdullah Peltier
Posted by: Mumia Jamil Abdullah Peltier | Jan 1, 2007 2:33:16 PM
Joe Blow said: "Count me as one of the people who gets a good laugh out of inmates getting raped.
of course the typical liberal response is to do insane shit like giving them work release, more privileges, cable TV, etc so we can make them feel more "human" therefore they wont resort to this savagery.
Hey liberals I got a better idea. Why dont we just pay for prostitutes to come in and service the inmates so they dont feel the urge to rape each other? I'm sure thats a good taxpayer use of money, and the local prostitute market would like it too"
How sick that you think it's okay that the nastier offenders get to rape the normal males who have done barely anything wrong compared to them?
How would you like it if women who had done drug offences were sent to jail and assraped ?
Mother-lover.
Posted by: Me | Jan 6, 2007 3:19:33 PM
I would just like to say that I know little about being in prison other than what I research and explore and in case your wandering why I just up and about research these kind of things is (1) Beats the hell out of watching the same pointless stupid shit on tv when your a loser with nothing to do in a shithole town. (2) Its sickening stuff but cant help myself but to explore this sugar coated topping of a lie we call "America" and finally (3) Because prison brutality and rape and all these other interesting things just go to show me that again and again and again how uncivilized all of us human beings really are. Okay maybe not all humans most women dont do nearly as brutal and sick things as we men do but Human males are the number 1 evil and im one of them. Now I have reasons upon why I feel that males are the main problem in society today and since the beginning and I think I have some at least SOME evidence to support my opinion Number 1: Males have always been the dominant ones, always the ones power and control hungry. I mean all you have to do is look at the world today and see the problems in it and look at who and the gender that is mainly behind it. Throuout years all the wars between countries or whatever especially back then were brought on by men all the soldiers killing eachother for whatever purpose religion, weapons, oil, differant view or whatever the reason were all executed and planned and decided by a government thats run by men. Number 2: Most of the rapes, murders, child molesting, peeping toms and all the perverted behavior has always usual at least most of the time been practiced by usually white males. Look up most of the most perverted sick and twisted serial killers like Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Hitler and Ted Bundy All the ones I listed so far are white and they are the most notorious. Now back to where I was discussing about "Rape" or "prison rape" or whichever both are bad now should we or should I say that the majority of rape everywhere is commited by heterosexual men "Yes" Now should I say that the majority of the prison rapist are homosexual "no". Because research that I have done shows that mostly it is the homosexual that gets raped in prison or the non violent fist offender than anybody else in prison. And the alpha males that do the rape have a purpose and that is to not to do a desperate thing as to have sex with the sexiest piece of sex he can find in there. Because I mean think about us "normal" people who have never raped before. I mean could I ever rape a man in prison no matter how desperate I got? No because I dont get a boner listening to someone scream and beg me to stop and someone getting beat and bloodied up and me ripping his anus up bad. That has never even struck my thoughts on a female let alone a fucking male. But everyone always says that you'd have to be gay or a faggot to rape a guy in prison must be true. Well Golly I mean sure they must know what goes on a rapist head. They should know what its like to think them thoughts as well if there gonna say ignorant shit like that and that is what part of the problem is with this country. Its the constant ignorant, judgemental not to mention hypocrytical (if I spelled that right) comments that I hear day after day everywhere. And that sad thing is people are still stupid and willfully ignorant to sit and smile and go to the fucking malls ( god we must have billions of them here) and shoveling disgusting garbage at fast food joints while at the same time accepting the fact that this whole way of living, this whole way of civilized society is nothing but one great big commercial shit of lies and "say one thing, do something differant" spirit we have. Anyways look up your history, look up everything we men are behind it all. Whos are president? a male Whos mostly in congress? I dont see as many women as males. What gender runs the government that says its ok for females to forcibally have there uteruses cut out of them in order to reduce there sexual pleasure so that they wont cheat on there husbands? Thats right you guessed it. I guess what i'm trying to say is that when it comes down to it the way the world works as long as man is running it is gonna be run like this if not worse later on. Only the strong with the most money and power has true freedom.
Posted by: Alan | Feb 8, 2007 12:40:04 AM
This is sick. This is a culture that breeds violence and rape of all sorts and when we realize it, we are all shocked. The hypocrisy is outrageous.
Posted by: Karim | Feb 12, 2007 3:48:02 PM
As the de facto administrator of the Security Fix blog, I've spent many an hour deleting spammy links left in the comments section -
- comments that usually lead back to the same kinds of Web sites you most commonly see advertised in junk e-mail.
Posted by: Garri Azz | Feb 15, 2008 7:29:49 PM
