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August 09, 2006

Lieberman on Mandates

By Ezra

Thinking about the last post, I did some cursory searching to see what Lieberman said after Bush's three percent victory. Here he is with Chris Wallace on November 14th, 2004:

WALLACE: Now that you've had time to reflect, what do you think is the single biggest reason that John Kerry lost the election?

LIEBERMAN: You know, the wonder of our system, Chris, of course, is that, you know, 115 million people vote, everybody makes up their own mind. There are so many reasons why it happened.

In the end, my own feeling is, looking at the polls, but intuiting, based on people I talk to, is that, although Senator Kerry got a lot of votes, 56 million votes, more than any Democratic candidate for president in history, but there's no prizes for second place in American politics.

And I think people, 3.5 million more voted for President Bush, largely on the question of security. We're in the midst of a war on terror. This president has been resolute. And a lot of people had confidence in his leadership to protect their safety, and basically decided they didn't want to change leaders in the midst of a war.[...]
I think this is a moment -- the president won. He got 3.5 million votes more than John Kerry. He's got an agenda. Most important of all, he's our commander in chief in the war on terror and the war in Iraq.

And it's time for us, including Democrats, to acknowledge that there are very few of us who have a policy going forward other than the one the president has. So let's support it. Let's increase the capability of the Iraqi military, get them ready for elections, to self-govern, and establish a self-governing democracy in the Middle East, which will be one of the greatest things we can do in the war on terror.

And here he is on -- yes -- Hannity and Colms on November 16th, 2004:

HANNITY: Senator, I watched you closely over the weekend, and you were very strong in saying that the Democratic Party didn't need to bring somebody like Howard Dean, who's on the fringe of your party, the left wing of your party, to run the party. You got your way. Harry Reid got this position.

But it's more than that. I have heard, you know, some of the most unbelievable statements from prominent Democrats, prominent liberals leading up to this whole thing, attacking the president while he's at war, questioning his motives, et cetera.

Are you -- and Michael Moore is sitting next to Jimmy Carter, a guest of honor at the convention, are you concerned about this leftward tilt of the Democratic Party in general?

LIEBERMAN: Well, sure I am. And you know, it exists at a certain level of people who are activists, Sean, but to me it doesn't speak for the rank and file of my party.

It's certainly not -- it's not the party of John F. Kennedy, who drew me and a lot of other people into political service. And I think we've got to be really careful about it.

Look, there's a lot of messages in any national campaign. But I think ultimately, 3.5 million more Americans trusted George W. Bush with their security.

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Senator...

LIEBERMAN: And until we can regain their confidence, we're not going to win those elections.

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But that was totally different. Not sure how. But it was. Totally different.

I can't wait to vote for Ned in November!!!

Posted by: amy | Aug 9, 2006 1:33:24 AM

Wow. I think that basically says it all right there. It really isn't just about the Iraq occupation. It's about Holy Joe's fealty to Dubya. He's happy to throw Democrats under the bus any chance he gets. Wonder how likes it when the voters of CT give him the same.

Posted by: CKT | Aug 9, 2006 2:26:50 AM

The big thing about Lieberman is not that he fails a policy litmus test but rather that, rather than accepting the legitimacy of the other wing of the party, he quite clearly doesn't believe Democracts should gain power. He's been very openly sullying the idea of Democractic control as dangerous (which, absurdly, seems to have been a very effective meme of late), thereby sabotaging the party.

Posted by: apantomimehorse | Aug 9, 2006 6:30:20 AM

Intellectual Consistency:

I'll certainly accept Ezra's point about Lieberman's previous statement on mandates.

But let's see how everyone who claimed yesterday that a 3 way race wouldn't be hurtful to other Democratic races feels about it today...

Posted by: Petey | Aug 9, 2006 6:38:05 AM

he quite clearly doesn't believe Democracts should gain power.

That's what came out of the CT debate for me: Lieberman spoke about his ability to work with the GOP majority as if it was destined to continue past 2004. His benefit to the people of CT, as he pitched it, was his capacity to grab scraps from the Republican table.

He's Grover Norquist's neutered Democrat. And like Marty Peretz, he really doesn't like the idea of dealing with Democrat floor leaders and committee chairs.

Posted by: ahem | Aug 9, 2006 8:03:03 AM

Over at dKos, there is a post approvingly linking to Ezra's writing here.

The dKos post also mentions that only crazy people would assume the 3 way race would hurt downballot CT races. Anyone have an over/under figure on how many days before the party line of that issue moves one hundred and eighty degrees?

I'd set the over/under at three days.

Posted by: Petey | Aug 9, 2006 9:35:43 AM

"But let's see how everyone who claimed yesterday that a 3 way race wouldn't be hurtful to other Democratic races feels about it today..."

Hmm, are you suggesting that liberals are going to argue that Lieberman staying in distracts Democracts from other races while some have previously suggested we shouldn't worry about it? This is a significant charge of intellectual dishonesty?

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