August 31, 2005
Josh Levin has written an exquisite elegy for New Orleans, the city he grew up in. You need to read it. You also need to donate. I'd like to do a pledge drive here on the site -- anyone know which charities will let me do that?
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There has been some controversy over the looting and rioting. The apologists say that there are no resources and that people must loot. No one can fault people for looking for food and water, etc., but TVs, Jewelry, and such show these people to be common thieves and nothing more. I hope they have a prison big enough to hold them all.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 31, 2005 3:04:49 PM
Thanks, Fred, for reminding us that your number 1 concern is not about human lives, the loss of everyone's homes, or the fact that one of America's most beautiful cities will be unhabitable for months. No, your number 1 concern is that a few looters are taking advantage of the chaos to steal consumer electronics.
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 31, 2005 3:28:07 PM
I know that the Red Cross recently partnered with Convio to expand their online presence. The Red Cross's server is getting slammed so they're not accessible (stupidly), and I don't know anyone in national HQ for you to talk to. You can try to contact Convio at email@example.com or 512.652.2632 to see if they've set something up.
Posted by: theorajones | Aug 31, 2005 3:51:20 PM
Constantine seizes a manufactured opportunity to vent his hatred. So what?
Out of curiosity, I went to his blog. Some gay guy's picture on the header and no traffic whatsoever. Who's surprised?
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 31, 2005 4:08:56 PM
Fred, you're the best. I'm glad to see you're going out of your way to help Ezra raise money for the people of New Orleans. It's really an inspiration to us all.
Posted by: theorajones | Aug 31, 2005 5:16:41 PM
Some gay guy's picture...
You just proved his point. You didn't like what he said, so you called him gay. Nice priorities.
Posted by: Adrock | Aug 31, 2005 5:17:05 PM
I'm glad to see you're going out of your way to help Ezra raise money for the people of New Orleans.
You must be a real dumbass if you are in the dark as to where you can donate. The president just gave a speech asking for cash donations and there are plenty of known charities to donate to. I make good money and also an not cheap. I gave $200.00 to stormaid.com. The red cross is also a standard. If you are still confused as to where you can donate, please email me.
theorajones, since you are so snippy, why not tell us just how much *YOU* have donated?
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 31, 2005 6:07:24 PM
You didn't like what he said, so you called him gay.
That was him!!!?
If he's not gay, he ought to be.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 31, 2005 6:08:51 PM
That picture of me was actually taken in New Orleans. One of my college friends from the area is currently living in Baton Rouge, but I couldn't get through on the phone to her-- all circuits are busy. Ultimately, she reported that some of her family's homes were destroyed, and the state of her parents' home is unknown. I still haven't managed to hear anything from another one of my college friends from the area.
To be honest, the prospect that someone, somewhere in New Orleans might get away with committing a property crime in a disaster area doesn't keep me up at night. Why? Because it's far more upsetting that the city itself is being destroyed. What does keep me up at night is that there aren't enough National Guardsmen or National Guard equipment to keep order in the city, which is going to be uninhabitable for months. If, months from now, when the final toll in terms of lives and property is tallied, someone is ranting and raving that the theft of a piece of consumer electronics during this time has still gone unpunished, it's a sign that someone doesn't have their priorities straight. Many of the September 11th looters were ultimately tracked down, but the fact remains that it was the least of our worries that day. Quite honestly, Fred, I think you should "let it go." Not everyone gets punished for their sins/crimes in this world, and it's best to stay focused on what's important. Yeah, maybe some looters deserve to be thrown in jail and locked up for a few years. But plenty of law-abiding citizens deserve to be alive and in an intact home. Not everyone gets what they deserve in life, and in this particularly circumstance, it's probably best for you to concentrate on the very large latter group, not the very tiny former group.
Plus, solve the other problems in New Orleans-- getting the National Guard there, evacuating the city, preventing further loss of life and outbreak of disease, and any problems related to property crimes will abate in short order.
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 31, 2005 7:04:06 PM
"Thanks, Fred, for reminding us that your number 1 concern is not about human lives, the loss of everyone's homes, or the fact that one of America's most beautiful cities will be unhabitable for months. No, your number 1 concern is that a few looters are taking advantage of the chaos to steal consumer electronics."
-----Posted by: Constantine | Aug 31, 2005 12:28:07 PM
Well, here's the massive and dangerous problem that Constantine chose to ignore. He was more interested in GET FRED than discussing this important issue. Try this AP story on for size, Susan. And just remember, it's just the beginning...
New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert, said looters were breaking into stores all over town and stealing guns. He said there are gangs of armed men moving around the city. At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street. The Times-Picayune newspaper reported that the gun section at a new Wal-Mart had been cleaned out by looters. Authorities said an officer was shot in the head and a looter was wounded in a shootout.
Why don't you think before you type, Constantine?
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 31, 2005 7:08:21 PM
Seriously, Fred, you're like a caricature of a troll. You're actually giving someone crap for trying to organize donations to help disaster victims.
I think you eat babies.
Posted by: theorajones | Aug 31, 2005 7:12:05 PM
Might I remind you that I was the first and, so far, the only poster who actually gave suggestions where one could donate.
*AND* you didn't answer the question about how much you donated, sweetheart....so whynot put your money where your big fat mouth is...hmmmm?
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 31, 2005 7:20:23 PM
Fred, I gave Ezra the information he actually requested, which was how to contact a charity about hosting a pledge drive on his site.
Of course, you actually know that becuase you directed people NOT to an aid organization's direct donation site, but to Clear Channel's pledge drive site.
Generally considered sleazy behavior, to not only discourage a person from hosting a pledge drive but to then attempt to direct traffic from his site to ANOTHER pledge drive (maybe one that's giving you or your firm a little something?).
Stop eating babies, Fred.
Posted by: theorajones | Aug 31, 2005 7:29:15 PM
Fred, try to be helpful. Your tirades and namecalling are becoming tiresome. What were YOU concerned about? Not public safety or the refugees, but that people were looting "TVs, Jewelry, and such" (your words) and you did so in a thread about fundraising for relief. Unacceptable. And your sexual fixation about my picture is just... of the charts. Your outrage is very selective and concern for actual, you know, people only arises when you get called on your callousness. I suggest you clean up your behavior.
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 31, 2005 7:42:54 PM
Fred, I gave Ezra the information he actually requested, which was how to contact a charity about hosting a pledge drive on his site.
Really? Here is the "helpful" information that theorajones posted: "The Red Cross's server is getting slammed so they're not accessible (stupidly), and I don't know anyone in national HQ for you to talk to. You can try to contact Convio at firstname.lastname@example.org or 512.652.2632 to see if they've set something up."
Really helpful there, theorajones....On the other hand, *I* posted a website created solely to help Katrina victims (one that actually works) so that Ezra migh have the option to link to it. *You* let politics get in the way of helping these poor people. "Ooooo....that was set up by ClearChannel.....we'd rather let them starve"
For the third time, theroajones....I donated $200.00........how much did *YOU* give??
As for Constantine, he has his own problems. He is apparently upset that he looks like a homo in that picture. Hey, Constantine, if you don't want to look like a homosexual, then CHANGE THE FRIKKIN' PICTURE!!! (Sheesh....)
Back to the issue: Constantine was not even aware that gangs were looting gunstores and roaming the city armed with all kinds of guns and even shooting police when he stated "a few looters are taking advantage of the chaos to steal consumer electronics." Well, Susan, it just ain't a few and it just ain't 'consumer electronics' is it? One cop shot in the head and others shot at. Gangs roaming the city. People in terror. Many won't stay in the designated shelters with their children because it's too dangerous. I guess he just ran his mouth without engaging his brain. bottom line is he fucked up...he knows it and I know it and anyone who reads this blog (all 5 of them) knows it.
Oh, and good luck with your picture. Maybe you'll get the "hookup".
Posted by: Fred Jones | Aug 31, 2005 11:30:32 PM
Ezra, I imagine the Red Cross would be happy to take any money you could drum up. And Zimmy's sociopathy is showing itself in full steam--Dallas is so close to New Orleans, and not a drop of compassion.
Posted by: Amanda | Aug 31, 2005 11:33:42 PM
Let's stop and reflect on this a moment. I wish to savor this moment. Mandy-Pandy calls someone else a sociopath!! That's rich!
Say, how's that flunky's job at the college working out? Still able to blog on the taxpayer's dime? Get caught again?
Posted by: Fred Jones | Sep 1, 2005 4:21:18 AM
Ezra, there's a troll needs banning.
Beyond his personal attacks and vituperation (which is really out of bounds), Fred's actually attempting to trick people into being part of a corporation's PR response to Katrina. This is especially unpleasant when it's a corporation like Clear Channel which has made political decisions many of your readers oppose, and when we don't know if Clear Channel is taking a percentage of the funds it is raising (if he'd linked to an agency directly, I wouldn't have this concern).
The fact that he may have a financial interest in driving up traffic on ClearChannel's pledge site is also worrisome.
The insults, though, are really more than enough. There's nothing constructive being added here.
Posted by: theorajones | Sep 1, 2005 10:51:43 AM
Yeah, it's horrible. Here's the link .
On this terrible site you will find people a non-politicized effort to coordinate their radio stations to raise money, water, food and shelter for the red cross. It's just awful. The public can also find the latest news and states' advisories....they are, after all, a communications company (those bastards!).
In all seriousness, I am amazed by the statements that theorjones makes. Go to the site yourself and then re-read the statements made by this person.
This is especially unpleasant when it's a corporation like Clear Channel which has made political decisions many of your readers oppose.....
What kind of monster would politicize this crisis as she has? ClearChannel has the communicatons infrastructure to get massive amounts of money flowing to the red cross while she was sitting on her thumb.
I would think that getting money to the red cross fast was more important than whining politics....but I guess to some, it isn't. Then there's the "Run to daddy" issue. I'm not even going to address that behavior.
Posted by: Fred Jones | Sep 1, 2005 12:56:42 PM
Shit....wrong link. OK, plug it in yourself...it is:
Posted by: Fred Jones | Sep 1, 2005 1:07:14 PM
A guy in my car club is setting up a fund. The reason is, any money he raises, his employer will match! Its pretty dope, I think.
Posted by: Adrock | Sep 1, 2005 3:52:37 PM
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