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May 17, 2005
Pundit Fever
The Carpetbagger catches EJ Dionne in a bout of pundit fever, that peculiar malady that forces otherwise intelligent columnists to pretend that whatever solution or ill they've discovered is a threat to the political party they're criticizing, even while said party is way ahead of them on the issue. Today EJ dashes off to meet a county official from Long Island who has found a novel new approach on choice: he agrees that it's bad, wants it to remain legal, and is focusing on reducing the total number of abortions. This formulation, otherwise known as the Hillary Clinton approach or Reid's Prevention First bill offers precisely nothing new to the Democratic party that's currently pushing it, but you'd think the EJ had found a political rosetta stone that Terry McAulliffe and Ed Gillespie had kept hidden through sheer force of will.
The worst part of this column is that Dionne doubtlessly knows where the blame belongs: squarely on the chest of a Christian Right that has no interest in anything but the full criminalization of abortion. That's why Hillary Clinton's call for compromise was met with this bored, hostile rejection:
Carol Tobias, political director for the National Right to Life Foundation, dismissed the invitation as an effort "to get the pro-life movement into a debate over birth control," on which her organization takes no position. Ms. Tobias called the Democrats' talk "pulling the wool over the eyes of voters."
Dionne's role, now, isn't to point out a two-party equivalence that doesn't exist, but to separate those looking for constructive solutions from those sustaining a wedge issue. Right now, the vast majority of the Democratic party is firmly among the first group and they're being stymied by powerful elements within the Republican party who refuse to consider a middle ground. Dionne's guns should be focused on them.
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"...he agrees that it's bad, wants it to remain legal, and is focusing on reducing the total number of abortions..."
Indeed... where in the world have I heard that before? Hmm...
Posted by: TJ | May 17, 2005 3:06:08 PM
The whole issue is ridiculous. This country is pro-choice, giving an inch (and I'm speaking crude politics here, morally, obviously it's best to do whatever possible to lower the abortion rate while still keeping the option legal) is freaking ridiculous. Republicans don't give an inch on gay marriage, because on that issue, the public supports their side, so why would they?
I know bashing the democratic party is like a sport in the liberal blogosphere, but for christ's sake, this is so fucking dumb. People who are against a woman's right to choose...let me rephrase that, people who make being against a women's right to choose their most important voting issue, will not be swayed by the appearance of compromise. Conversely, actively (or rather publicly) seeking a middle ground (that won't exist at the polls) gives the perception that anti-choice republicans are correct on the issue, that democrats recognize that, and are taking steps to help bridge the gap.
The Democratic party: We support a woman's right to choose...kinda, sorta.
You fuckin' pussies.
Posted by: Marie | May 17, 2005 4:20:29 PM
When Bush steps out in support of civil unions and says the Republican platform is wrong...what do you call that?
Posted by: Ezra | May 17, 2005 4:26:41 PM
Well civil unions and gay marriage are two different things obviously and I think (though I'm not sure) there's much stronger support for some kind of civil union/contract situation than there is for gay marriage.
But what I'm talking about is pure politics. There's a massive number of people who will vote for the pro-life candidate no matter what. Nothing, imo, is going to change their mind. I THINK we all accept that, so for someone to argue for a middle ground, I assume they're implying there's a significant voter base out there that would by swayed toward our side by our searching out said middle ground. I don't think those people exist.
Posted by: Marie | May 17, 2005 4:42:41 PM
But more to my original point (or the point I was trying to make), WHY is this an issue in the first place? The public is on OUR SIDE on this issue. Searching for the middle ground on an issue you already own makes you a good person I suppose, but I don't think it's going to get you any votes. If anything, it makes you appear weaker. I just don't get it.
Posted by: Marie | May 17, 2005 4:46:41 PM
so for someone to argue for a middle ground, I assume they're implying there's a significant voter base out there that would by swayed toward our side by our searching out said middle ground. I don't think those people exist.
The point is to drive a wedge between pro-choice voters inclined to vote for Bush and the pro-life anti-birthcontrol extremists. My take on "moderates" is that you don't attract them by trying to be "more moderate than the other candidate." You attract them by onvincing them that the other candidate is a wild extremist... so you want the Democrats to propose a bunch of "prevention first" bills and get the Republicans to line up behind their anti-birth-control fundamentalist base and oppose them.
Posted by: Constantine | May 17, 2005 5:31:13 PM
OT:
Take a look at the old Pandagon stats where Ezra used to post. Since he has gone and his replacement, Amanda Marcotte took over, it has not been doing well at all. The cahnge was about the first week in March.
Hope he wakes up and unloads the baggage.
Posted by: Robert Zimmerman | May 17, 2005 10:06:34 PM
Reading Pandagon I never really paid attention to who posted what. When Ezra left and I began reading his blog as well, I realized, "oh, he was the wonky one, Jesse was the funny one." Huge, sweeping generalization, I know, But that was my thinking.
I know a lot of people don't enjoy Amanda, but I think it's a case of her sucking compared to Ezra, more so than her sucking in general. Basically: She's good, but she's no Ezra. Also I'm not sure how many people realized how good Ezra WAS until he started his own blog. So the drop in quality seems all that more significant.
I'm not an Amanda hater, but I don't read Pandagon as much as I used to, while Ezra is on my daily read list, so I guess there's something there.
Posted by: Reggie | May 17, 2005 10:34:10 PM
Alright, I think that sounded dickier than I intended..
Posted by: Reggie | May 17, 2005 10:37:10 PM
I know a lot of people don't enjoy Amanda, but I think it's a case of her sucking compared to Ezra, more so than her sucking in general.
There's a point to debate. Is it and absolute suck or a comparative suck. I guess we can both agree that it does, indeed, suck.
I felt that Ezra was less of a partisan hothead than Jesse. Now, instead of a balance, Jesse has added a raving lunatic. I guess if you eat, sleep and shit "wimmins" rights, raise your clenched fist in a sixties fashion every time the glass ceiling is discussed, use the term "fuck that" and "fuck you" a lot, and call everyone around you a pig, you are probably pretty happy with the change. However, the numbers on that histogram are sobering. The first of March is the turning point for his board and the time she came on board. Now it looks like a ski jump from March one to the present.
Good luck to Jesse.
Posted by: Robert Zimmerman | May 18, 2005 7:44:14 AM
Man, robert must be pissed he can't post over there any more! I liked pandagon before, and I like pandagon now. I enjoy amanda's posts though her concerns are a bit young for me. And I must say I enjoy the new bob zim free comments.
aimai
Posted by: aimai | May 18, 2005 1:10:42 PM
I wonder if bobby ever found some other site to haunt with his ISP-spoofing software, or is all the money he paid for it down the drain........
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