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April 02, 2005

Weird wingnuttery

Powerline's Hindrocket has a strange post about an apparent error that the NYTimes made in posting its article about the pope's death.  They seem to have accidentally published it before it was finished, and so it read as follows:

Even as his own voice faded away, his views on the sanctity of all human life echoed unambiguously among Catholics and Christian evangelicals in the United States on issues from abortion to the end of life.

need some quote from supporter

John Paul II's admirers were as passionate as his detractors, for whom his long illness served as a symbol for what they said was a decrepit, tradition-bound papacy in need of rejuvenation and a bolder connection with modern life.

"The situation in the Catholic church is serious," Hans Kung, the eminent Swiss theologian, who was barred by from teaching in Catholic schools because of his liberal views, wrote last week. "The pope is gravely ill and deserves every compassion. But the Church has to live. ...

Powerline has a screen capture too.  They comment that

The New York Times reports on his papacy in an article that inadvertently tells us more than the Times really wanted us to know. The Times had its criticisms of John Paul's papacy ready to go, but apparently went looking for something good to say about the Pope at the last minute.

I don't think I understand what the big deal is.  The NYTimes article is very fair ("he defied easy definition: For all his conservatism on social and theological issues, he was decidedly forward-looking"), and Powerline's statement that they had their criticism ready to go, but had to go looking for a good quote is speculative at best.  The only thing, in fact, that is clear is that the NYTimes intended to present more than one side.  In the context of Heather's post below about the Washington Times' one-sidedness below, Hindrocket just looks like he's trying to pick a fight. 

Michelle Malkin cites it as an example of how

The death of the Pope just couldn't stop the libs in the media from showing their true colors.

What are their true colors?  That they wanted to make sure they had a quote from a supporter?  Those crazy liberals, always trying to be fair...

-- Michael

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All Hinderaker does is pick fights. Oh, and change the subject whenever anybody points out how wrong he usually is.

Posted by: John | Apr 2, 2005 9:49:00 PM

It's their job to stir up the proles.

But, you should note that Malkin reported the death of the Pope mid-yesterday with tons of links at the ready and then had to retract when JP didn't die on her schedule.

Then, she reported that some Lazarus school teacher in the Northwest suddenly awoke from his PVS -- only to retract that several hours later.

Posted by: Roxanne | Apr 2, 2005 10:23:50 PM

So now the order in which you insert quotations (not even the order in the text) is a political statement?

I also dislike the "libs" usage. I think we should start making sure that the other side (in the media, at the very very least) are called "cons.' Sound fair?

Posted by: TJ | Apr 2, 2005 10:28:07 PM

This is one of those things that is so absurd, that questioning its logic is almost seen as rhetorical, so unfortunately you never really get an answer. But what the fuck are they talking about?

Posted by: NC | Apr 2, 2005 11:14:56 PM

Hindrocket is a fucking idiot. The guy was arguing evolution with PZ Myers talking like he had a clue. After that show of arrogant stupidity, I don't even read that blog anymore.

Posted by: ~DS~ | Apr 3, 2005 12:13:01 AM

I'll refer to them as "cons" from now on. Good stuff.

Posted by: perianwyr | Apr 3, 2005 3:38:03 AM

"Hinderaker", John? Worst...Bond...ever!


I think Malkin's implication is that NYT was just itching to diss the pope, so saying anything good was just an afterthought to hide their agenda. The obvious thought, though, is that there's just way too many platitudes and nicities to sort through; I know that's how I would feel if I had to write this story. Maybe the namby-pamby liberal elitest writer at the New York Times just wanted to find something observant which a thoughtful admirer said--that would be pretty hard to find.

Posted by: pantomimeHorse | Apr 3, 2005 6:22:39 AM

It's rare to see a story "in progress". It used to be that you had to be in the newsroom or a family member of a writer to see this kind of thing.

There's nothing nefarious about it. It just goes to show me that reporters have to think through a story like this one each step of the way, but also that news reporting is a business. The "need some quote from supporter" comment is clearly part of an outline, and that it was seen as a necessary element of the story.

Maybe bloggers like Hindrocket should spend a few days in a newsroom before going off on the mainstream press over bullshit like this. There are bigger fish to fry.

Posted by: Ryan | Apr 3, 2005 1:47:40 PM

Not only that, but they failed to cancel the Final Four and dress up Sean May in ashes and sackcloth.

Posted by: norbizness | Apr 3, 2005 2:00:50 PM

Bashing CBS Sports for covering the NCAA games? I guess those Baptists in NC and Kentucky are doomed to burn in hell. BTW Michelle - our God is one of love as opposed to your nonstop hate. Simply put Michelle - you just insulted all Christians (as did George Will - see Angrybear for why).

Posted by: pgl | Apr 3, 2005 3:44:46 PM

I like the "neo-con" better. This lot doesn't preserve much.

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