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March 28, 2005
Another Annoying Panel
Over at Sean-Paul's place, I'm undersigned on a letter protesting The National Press Club's strange lineup for their upcoming "Blogger? Journalist?" event. Slated to discuss the issue are Wonkette, Congress Daily's John Stanton, and Jeff Gannon. Yeah, that Jeff Gannon.
It's such a laughably silly slate that you can't be mad, just amused. Nevertheless, in an event that bills itself as having bloggers and journalists attending to discuss what they are, you'd think they could add in a representative blogger or two. Ana Marie-Cox is not, so far as I can tell, a blogger anymore. I mean, maybe she is, but whenever I click over to Wonkette, which I rarely do, it seems someone else is writing the site. BoiFromTroy, or, right now, Greg Beato, or "Joe Klein" -- but not Cox. One of the defining traits of bloggers is that they, well, blog, and Cox doesn't seem to do that. I don't blame her, all these panels eat up the workday, but it's time for her to turn in the blog decoder ring and become a professional guest panelist if she's going to drop off her site and become ubiquitous at breakout sessions and buffet lines.
In addition, it's kinda weird to represent political blogs, which are overearnest, highly wonky things, with Cox. It'd be like using gossip-queen Liz Smith as the standard representative for political reporters. It'd embarrass the media, which is why it wouldn't happen and, I guess, why they use Wonkette to represent us -- we're eminently embarassable. But this time, at least, the jokes on the media. The guy they've chosen to accept as a legitimate halfway point between online media and respectable journalism is a partisan hack who sold his body by the hour. They could've picked Andrew Sullivan, Matt Yglesias, Josh Marshall, or any of the other blogger/writers who populate the net, but no, they chose the male prostitute and paired him with the blogger obsessed with anal penetration. Says something, doesn't it?
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Comments
I need some background on Wonkette and how she relates to Democratic blogs. I'm relatively new to blogs, so I assume there's some history here I'm not aware of, so that's why I'm posting. Basically, why is there tension between Dem bloggers and Wonkette? I've noticed this more than a few times in the last 6 months or so. What gives?
Posted by: NC | Mar 28, 2005 7:48:47 PM
Nothing particular that I know. Ana Marie Cox is a paid blogger, chosen and hired by Nick Denton, who writes on DC gossip. I think a lot of left-bloggers find it irritating that she's often used to represent what we do, when what we do is barely even related to what she does. Nobody, so far as I know, has anything against Cox herself, it's her ubiquity as the liberal blogger when she's neither particularly liberal (at least in public) nor a particularly standard blogger.
Posted by: Ezra | Mar 28, 2005 7:54:11 PM
I definitely understand the blogger-representation angle. I know her more from her television appearances than her actual blog, and while I never assumed she was liberal in a democratic party sense, as in, I never assumed she was on this panel or that panel as a representative of the party, she comes off very liberal in general, at least to me. But obviously that isn't the consensus, hence my original inquiry and confusion. Thanks for clearing that up!
Posted by: NC | Mar 28, 2005 8:26:01 PM
NC,
I'm sure Ana Marie is in fact basically liberal -- she is, after all, an avowed libertine. But that's not what drives her blogging. By her own admission, she's a gossip and a snark, and that's what her blog is about -- her personal politics are basically irrelevant. She doesn't do reporting, she doesn't do policy, she doesn't do strategy, she doesn't do analysis, she doesn't do opinion [except to snark], and she doesn't stand up for anything except soi-distant ironic disaffection and mockery. Which -- credit where credit is due -- she is very, very good at. Or, rather, she was, before she effectively quit blogging to write her book/appear on every blogging panel in the universe, as Ezra notes.
However, it's ridiculous to have her represent the liberal blogosphere on these panels when her entire public persona precludes her from actually advocating for anything -- let alone for core liberal ideas. If you want to have her on there to gossip about the sex lives of Washington staff assistants, that's fine. But given that she flat-out refuses to talk about anything substantial, I'm perplexed as to why she keeps getting invited to do these panels and radio and TV appearances ostensibly devoted to talking about substantial matters.
FWIW, I feel exactly the same way about Maureen Dowd. But thankfully MoDo hates doing media appearances. Whereas Ana Marie likes nothing better.
Posted by: Thad | Mar 28, 2005 8:48:47 PM
It will be fucking hysterical if they get Aravosis up there. It's a crying shame I won't be in DC until two weeks after the event...I would pay to see it.
Posted by: B | Mar 28, 2005 9:36:10 PM
All above points about Ana are true, of course, but let's face it: she's quite photogenic and witty and these are qualities that translate well on television.
Posted by: MattSchiavenza | Mar 28, 2005 10:50:53 PM
she's quite photogenic and witty
So's Roxanne -- and she even has Real Media Cred. Now, I have no idea whether she would want to be on TV or radio or one of these currently-ubiquitous blogger panels, but surely she'd be a more representative choice than Ana Marie.
And actually, now that you mention it, I might quibble with your use of "witty" to describe AMC's media appearances -- Ana Marie isn't nearly as quick with the bon mots on the teevee as she is(/was) on her blog. In fact, most of the time, she comes off as ditzy and seriously underprepared.
Posted by: Thad | Mar 28, 2005 11:32:47 PM
"It'd be like using gossip-queen Liz Smith as the standard representative for political reporters."
Actually, that's far from being the bad idea as you probably meant it to be. But reality has beaten you to the punch, I think. (Doesn't she write for the Times under a pen name? "Bumiller" can't really be anybody's legitimate surname, can it?)
Posted by: Ghost of Joe Liebling's Dog | Mar 28, 2005 11:56:23 PM
Thanks for the props, Thad. But, cannot do. I get a lot of requests, but cannot due to conflict of interest. I sit on some panels now and then.
Posted by: Roxanne | Mar 29, 2005 8:09:58 AM
I don't have a problem with Ana Marie being a spokesperson for the "left" blogosphere, as long as she's not deemed the only "left" bloggers. And, honestly, she's not representative of the blogosphere for a very, very critical reason: she's closer to and deals with the Washington establishment much more than is representative in the blogosphere.
PS: You're right. A couple of things that are odd is that she doesn't actually do any blogging anymore.
Posted by: Chris Rasmussen | Mar 29, 2005 10:18:56 AM
The reason this trio are on is to demean the bloggersphere. Are they going to impress the general public?
The MSM fears bloggers. Just consider how much time you spend at blogs compared to the old media these days.
Also IMO Andrew Sullivan is NOT a blogger. Sure he has a blog but he was a well known journalist/columnist years ago.
Posted by: Boethius | Mar 29, 2005 1:09:20 PM
What has bothered me more in the past, with blog-focused press, is that Wonkette is inevitably used as an example of a *female* political blogger. The men talk policy. The "girls" talk gossip and sex. But at this point the media seems so threatened by blogging in general that they're going for panels that marginalize blogging altogether, not just female blogging!
Posted by: Elisa Camahort | Mar 29, 2005 4:59:36 PM
They don't know what to do with political bloggers who are women. It gives them the wiggins. There's no reason it should, except for their own character flaws and intellectual torpor and general laziness.
The wingnuts have Ann Coulter. The MSM is trying to make Wonkette the moonbat Coulter. That way they can meet the obligation that a lot of us are pressing them for: visible participation by those of us in constant possession of vaginas.
They are much less uneasy if they can choose colorful, quotable, but marginalized women bloggers. Then they've achieved the degree of balance that they think is sufficient. I think they assess both Coulter and Cox in terms of the dancing dogs: the impressive aspect is not that they dance well, it's that they dance at all.
Oh lord, how I'd love to be wrong.
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